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Witness History

Replacing the Panchen Lama

Witness History

BBC

History, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.41.6K Ratings

🗓️ 23 January 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

On 29 November 1995, Tibetan Buddhist leaders attended a secret ceremony in the Tibetan capital, Lhasa. They were present to witness the choice of the next Panchen Lama, a position in Tibetan Buddhism second in importance to the Dalai Lama.

They were met by Chinese armed guards, sent to ensure Chinese influence over the choice of Panchen Lama. The Dalai Lama's choice of Panchen Lama had been kidnapped and disappeared six months earlier.

Arjia Rinpoche, a senior Tibetan Lama, was at the ceremony. He speaks to Alex Strangwayes-Booth.

This is a CTVC production.

Eye-witness accounts brought to life by archive. Witness History is for those fascinated by the past. We take you to the events that have shaped our world through the eyes of the people who were there. For nine minutes every day, we take you back in time and all over the world, to examine wars, coups, scientific discoveries, cultural moments and much more.

Recent episodes explore everything from football in Brazil, the history of the ‘Indian Titanic’ and the invention of air fryers, to Public Enemy’s Fight The Power, subway art and the political crisis in Georgia. We look at the lives of some of the most famous leaders, artists, scientists and personalities in history, including: visionary architect Antoni Gaudi and the design of the Sagrada Familia; Michael Jordan and his bespoke Nike trainers; Princess Diana at the Taj Mahal; and Görel Hanser, manager of legendary Swedish pop band Abba on the influence they’ve had on the music industry. You can learn all about fascinating and surprising stories, such as the time an Iraqi journalist hurled his shoes at the President of the United States in protest of America’s occupation of Iraq; the creation of the Hollywood commercial that changed advertising forever; and the ascent of the first Aboriginal MP.

(Photo: Arjia Rinpoche in 2008. Credit: Mira Oberman/AFP via Getty Images)

Transcript

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0:00.0

Before you listen to this BBC podcast, I'd like to quickly tell you about some others.

0:05.1

My name's Andy Martin and I'm the editor of a team of podcast producers at the BBC in Northern Ireland.

0:11.3

It's a job I really love because we get to tell the stories that really matter to people here,

0:16.2

but which also resonate and apply to listeners around the world.

0:19.6

And because the team is such a diverse range of skills and strengths,

0:23.0

we have trained journalists, people who love digging through archives,

0:26.6

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0:28.9

We really can do those stories justice.

0:31.5

So if you like this podcast, head to BBC Sounds

0:34.2

where you'll find plenty more fascinating stories from all around the UK.

0:43.4

Hello, welcome to the witness history podcast from the BBC World Service with me, Alex Strangway's

0:50.1

booth.

1:00.7

In this edition, I'm taking you to Tibet, governed by China since the mid-20th century.

1:10.5

It's the middle of the night on the 29th of November 1995, and a secretive ceremony is about to begin, which could dictate the future of Tibetan Buddhism.

1:14.6

That night was very intense.

1:18.5

We are on the bus.

1:20.1

When we arrived in the Jokan Temple Square, lots of police cars around there, very heavy armed vehicles around there.

1:34.1

The heavy armed soldiers, shoulder to shoulder, then stand both side of the road.

1:41.7

Among the monks who've been brought to this ceremony is 45-year-old

1:45.7

Arja Rimpocce, Rimpocci being the title given to a revered teacher or llama in Tibetan Buddhism.

1:54.0

He's one of the Tibetan Buddhist leaders who've been called to the sacred Jokang temple

1:59.2

in the capital Lhasa by Chinese officials for a ceremony they've set called to the sacred Jokang Temple in the capital Lhasa by Chinese officials

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