I went to the Queens Museum recently and I was like I had no idea the US Open was so near the

climax of Men in Black.

Welcome to your wrong about I'm Sarah Marshall and today we're talking about Renee Richards

with our pal Julie Cleakman. This is your wrong about first tennis episode. This is an episode

about sports and gender and the debate over trans kids and sports trans people and sports but of

course especially as always in America trans youth. We have a little trigger warning for you for

suicide and suicidal thoughts which comes up briefly in conversation. It's not something that

happens in this story but it is a topic of thought. Speaking of Pride Month we have a special

Pride episode bonus offering for you with our Frank Chelsea Weber Smith in whose closet I am

recording this right now. Carolyn informs me that it's funny that I guess came out of the closet

and yet here I am trapped in the club but Chelsea Weber Smith is the only closet I would ever

want to be in. We did a great episode together where they told me all about the gay agenda.

I really love doing it with Chelsea. I love Chelsea's work. Please go listen to American

hysteria if you haven't yet. You're in for a treat. Buckle up Cowboys. Here we go. We're headed for

the US Open.

Welcome to your wrong about the podcast. We're very occasionally. We talk about sports and here we

go again with Julie Cleakman. Hello. Hi. How are you? I'm great. Thanks for having me. I am so happy

you wanted to come and talk to us because I do feel like this show secretly is like a little bit of

a sports show just very occasionally. A little bit. I think one of the things I love about

talking about sports is whether we know it or not, I think we're always talking about gender,

which is part of today's show. Absolutely. I'd say that's exactly right and that is already

a more perceptive understanding of sports than like 90% of people interested in sports have.

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