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Hello. I've long held a suspicion that one of the deepest divisions between people is not rooted in their respective political or religious affiliations, but in their attitudes to camping.

Fancy a camping holiday darling is an enticing invitation in one home,

and substantial grounds for divorce in another.

Even children have their reservations. Hello, mother, hello father.

Here I am at Camp Granada.

Camp is very entertaining and they say we'll have some fun if it stops raining.

I went hiking with Joe Spivey. He developed Poison Ivy. You remember, Leonard Skinner. He got to-ant poisoning last night after dinner.

Alan Sherman. But at least my own attitude to camping on the whole, I'd rather be in the third ring of hell,

has always made me admire those who choose this

particular form of habitation as a way of making a point delivering a protest.

But until I read a chapter in a new book called Making Things International I haven't realized quite how ubiquitous the

protest camp had become. Well that chapter is co-authored by Anna Feigenbaum, who is a senior

lecturer in digital storytelling at Bournemouth University and she's now with me in the studio.

Quite clearly that camp doesn't count as a protest camp despite the number of people trying to get out of the place.

But what counts at a protest camp according to your... camp despite the number of people trying to get out of the place.

But what counts out a protest camp according to your research?

Well, we try to cast a wide net to be able to look at it internationally.

And what we say is that anything that is place-based form of protest that's also ongoing.

So whereas a march or a demonstration has a set time that it starts and ends and usually happens in a day,

a protest camp is a place where people are both trying to live as well as trying to do some political action.

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