Our special curated playlist continue as we revisit some of our very favorite conversations since the start of the show. Happy listening.

Hey, it's Alicia. As you know, we record these conversations weeks, sometimes months in advance. So know that the next few episodes were recorded before the protests we've seen across the

country.

If we're not talking about them, it's because we spoke before they happened.

She says she never saw real girls like her on TV, and that girl protagonists rarely

grew up to do something great.

So after rising up the Hollywood ranks

from assistant to writer, Ilana Pena created a show about a Latina who grows up to be president

of the United States. And today, Diary of a Future President streams on Disney Plus.

So thanks for doing this.

Thank you for having me.

I'm super excited to talk to you.

Likewise.

Growing up, what were you watching on TV?

What was I watching on TV?

I was actually just thinking about this

because I have a lot of, you know, TV writer friends

who are like, I was parked in front of the TV

and I watched, you know, every

episode of Malcolm in the middle or every episode of this. And there were shows that my family

watched together. Boy Meets World was one of them. And the Olson twins were huge for me.

They had this show called Two of a Kind where their dad was a professor and dated the babysitter.

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