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REMEMBERING THE FIRST COLD WAR AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SECOND COLD WAR: 5/8: The Sisterhood: The Secret History of Women at the CIA by Liza Mundy (Author)

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🗓️ 20 May 2024

⏱️ 10 minutes

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REMEMBERING THE FIRST COLD WAR AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SECOND COLD WAR: 5/8: The Sisterhood: The Secret History of Women at the CIA by Liza Mundy (Author)

https://www.amazon.com/Sisterhood-Secret-History-Women-CIA/dp/0593238176/ref=asc_df_0593238176&mcid=d8b024f8944a3cfb869a04c0b84ba964?tag=bngsmtphsnus-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80608071597838&hvnetw=s&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4584207596928557&psc=1

Created in the aftermath of World War II, the Central Intelligence Agency relied on women even as it attempted to channel their talents and keep them down. Women sent cables, made dead drops, and maintained the agency’s secrets. Despite discrimination—even because of it—women who started as clerks, secretaries, or unpaid spouses rose to become some of the CIA’s shrewdest operatives.

They were unlikely spies—and that’s exactly what made them perfect for the role. Because women were seen as unimportant, pioneering female intelligence officers moved unnoticed around Bonn, Geneva, and Moscow, stealing secrets from under the noses of their KGB adversaries. Back at headquarters, women built the CIA’s critical archives—first by hand, then by computer. And they noticed things that the men at the top didn’t see. As the CIA faced an identity crisis after the Cold War, it was a close-knit network of female analysts who spotted the rising threat of al-Qaeda—though their warnings were repeatedly brushed aside.

After the 9/11 attacks, more women joined the agency as a new job, targeter, came to prominence. They showed that data analysis would be crucial to the post-9/11 national security landscape—an effort that culminated spectacularly in the CIA’s successful effort to track down bin Laden in his Pakistani compound.

Propelled by the same meticulous reporting and vivid storytelling that infused Code Girls, The Sisterhood offers a riveting new perspective on history, revealing how women at the CIA ushered in the modern intelligence age, and how their silencing made the world more dangerous.

1922 POLAND

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0:00.0

This is a

0:05.2

This is CBS I on the world with John Bachelor.

0:09.7

Here's John Bachelor

0:12.3

visiting with the Sisterhood, The Secret History of Women at the CIA by Liza Mundi,

0:18.0

continuing it is June 25th, 1993.

0:22.0

Heidi August, our heroine for having fought the Soviets, having fought the

0:28.3

Abu Nudal is on her way for another stationing, she's moving around within the agency.

0:34.6

She's on her way to work that morning on the road, the access road that comes into the

0:38.5

CIA. She sees up ahead, a man get out of a brown dotson, is my note here, and open fire.

0:46.6

Two agency officers are killed, many are wounded, he gets back in the car and flees.

0:52.4

Now this is June 93. Months later there's an attempt to bring down one of the

0:58.4

World Trade Center towers with an enormous explosion that's eventually treated as a law enforcement matter.

1:05.3

What we're seeing here is how hard it is to put together events and say, this is Al Qaeda.

1:12.3

This is an attack on the United States. They're going to attack us.

1:16.2

Liza's book tells the story of how the women of the Counterterrorism Center put all these

1:22.4

pieces together and warned and

1:24.8

warned and warned through the balance of the 90s. We begin however with the romance

1:29.8

Liza what was Alex Station?

1:32.5

What did it represent to the agency

1:35.6

and even to the parts of that that had been called the CTC?

1:39.1

Alex Station.

1:41.7

Alex Station was part of the Counterterrorism Center.

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