What is your secret to success for a marriage when two people disagree, especially politically, in these days?

Off camera, she turns to me and says, you know, I know you're right.

Oh, I forgive her for everything she said. I deny. I did not. No, I think it's a shared history.

I think it's a 27-year-old daughter who's extraordinary clerking for the Ninth Circuit,

who is a shared bond. In San Diego. And we agree to disagree. And I've learned an enormous

amount from Steve, and I think he respects

that I have to run a publication which is you know a big tent.

There are many different points of view on the decision.

The inherent conflict really is, is that I wouldn't say she represents a community

but she's responsible for a very large and important community who complain to Katrina

about me. Now in the new era of feminism we're not supposed to be hyphenated politically.

Steve's supposed to have his views.

But if I say something objectionable, they suddenly Katrina and Steve say this is not true.

I mean, I think ultimately the fact is we've loved each other for 35 or 40 years. We sleep together.

And in the end, we know there are more important things.

But we do feel differently and very strongly about what I think is an unprecedented situation.

And it's Trump. I mean, Trump's coming to everybody's household.

Trump has known everyone and opposite.

You know how many friendships, marriages have been tormented and upended.

We're keeping ours together.

We're not going to give in to Trump.

Well, I don't feel that way.

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