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This is Fresh Air. I'm David Bienkule.

Take out the dance mother-fuh. That's the Detroit-based band, the m.

That's the most-hah-hah-hah-hah-huh.

That's the Detroit-based band, the MC5, one of the most radical of all the rock bands from the late 60s.

The band's founder, singer, and one of its guitarist, Wayne Kramer, died last week at the age of 75.

The group MC5, which stood for Motor City 5, was loud and often dissonant.

Some lyrics had expletives you couldn't play on the radio, and the band's politics were far to the left.

In their early days, they were managed by John Sinclair, head of the White Panther Party, who used to preach revolution at the MC5 concerts.

They played at many demonstrations and were the only band to play at the protest outside

the infamous Chicago Democratic Convention in 1968.

The MC5 broke up in 1972 and now is considered a forerunner of punk rock. Wayne Kramer struggled with drinking and drugs and was arrested

on drug charges and sent to prison for two years.

We're going to listen to Terry's 2002 interview with Wayne Kramer at the time he had released

a solo album called Adult World.

Let's go back to the beginning more or less of your story.

You grew up in Detroit.

Did your father work in the audio industry?

Yeah, well in a satellite sense, you know, he was an electrician and later was in the

building trades. And then I had a stepfather later on who also worked in the,

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