Remarkable Guardiola, Why Frank isn't Nuno at Spurs & are Sunderland safe already?
Tifo Football Podcast
The Athletic
4.6 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 10 November 2025
⏱️ 77 minutes
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Summary
Pep Guardiola’s remarkable evolution & adaptation over 1,000 competitive games in management, why comparison between Thomas Frank’s time at Tottenham and Nuno’s tenure are a bit unfounded and how long will Sunderland soar in the Premier League were all discussed in the latest Tifo Football podcast…
This episode of the Tifo football podcast is hosted by Joe Devine, features Kaya Kaynak, Jon Mackenzie & Jack Pitt-Brooke and is produced by Steve Hankey.
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00:00 - a returning intro
02:48 - Manchester City’s perfect day against Liverpool
5:39 - City’s new look attack and messy Liverpool
10:22 - the narrative around Liverpool
15:10 - City’s underload & Pep Guardiola’s evolution over 1,000 games
27:06 - listen to an advert
27:08 - a chat about Tottenham: why Thomas Frank is not Nuno
44:15 - The Separation Game Part 1
46:07 - a raw dog break
46:10 - The Separation Game Part 2
50:39 - Sunderland are soaring
52:35 - Joe’s rubbish promoted sides game
56:35 - Why Sunderland are basically safe JON
1:01:52 - predicted chat
1:03:56 - Three fun facts about Thomas Tuchel’s England
1:13:05 - Points Are Bad returns!
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| 0:00.0 | The Athletic FC |
| 0:03.1 | Hello and welcome to the TIFO football podcast. |
| 0:10.8 | I'm Joe Devine and today I'm delighted. |
| 0:13.9 | I'm extra delighted, warm and fuzzy to be joined by he's looking at his phone. |
| 0:18.6 | It's Jack Pitt Bro. |
| 0:20.1 | Hey! |
| 0:55.9 | How's it going? Yeah, really good. How are you? What's on your phone there? Is anything good? WhatsApp, Instagram. Oh, a WhatsApp. Oh, a secret journalist WhatsApp that we're not allowed to know about. Good Lord. Well, there's plenty more of that on today's episode. Also, John McKenzie. Welcome back, Joe. Oh, thank you. Yeah, I know. And Kyakhinx. Welcome back, yeah. Yes, again, a second welcome back. Also, Steve's here. Yeah, you're back, aren't you? I am back, and don't you know it? Yeah, he knows. He got a little bit loose in my absence, I think, audience. So we've had to do a bit of tightening up today, tightening those screws. |
| 0:55.1 | Now, what did we talk about on today's episode? Well, Manchester City beat Liverpool |
| 1:00.5 | 3-0, and we discuss, A, how much of a mess that Liverpool are, and also has, is Pep Guardiola, |
| 1:08.8 | what was it, John, the greatest person of all time, in your opinion, Something like that? Yes. Yeah, something like that. That's exactly what we said. Staying with John, does John look like a 12-year-old with a beard? Actually, now I've said I don't think it's true, but it was funny to say. So there's that. Are under loads the opposite of overloads, or are they banned now from the podcast? Stick around later to find out. We also speak about Tottenham Hotspur because I'm not allowed to say Tottenham. Do you remember that when they said you weren't allowed to say Tottenham anymore? You can't just call them Tottenham. You can call them Tottenham hot spur. Well guess what? Well spurs, but not on them. Call them whatever you like. I call them Tottenham all the time. It's a safe space. |
| 1:45.7 | It is quite fine. |
| 1:46.7 | I can, I've moved into a new flat recently with a balcony and I can see the Spurs stadium in the distance and I like to stand there at night holding onto the balcony saying, Tottenham. I'm talking about the area. I'm looking at the area. |
| 2:01.9 | Top number. |
| 2:06.7 | Anyway, we talk about them and Thomas Frank's friendly big tech energy. |
| 2:08.6 | Is there such a thing as friendly big tech? |
| 2:12.3 | That's confusing, isn't it? What a delightful confusion there. |
| 2:15.6 | We also played the separation game with some raw dogging. |
| 2:21.7 | There actually wasn't any raw dogging. It was all very safe. |
| 2:27.3 | Then I do a terrible best promoted sides quiz, which was actually pretty good, but it was terribly misunderstood by John McKenzie. Does John's pedantry have a 93% chance of |
| 2:33.1 | pissing Steve off? |
| 2:35.7 | It seems like it does. |
| 2:37.9 | Find out why a little bit later on. |
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