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Pablo Torre Finds Out

Reliving a Masterpiece: David Foster Wallace, Michael Joyce, and the Psychology of Tennis

Pablo Torre Finds Out

Pablo Torre, Le Batard & Friends

Sports

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 3 September 2024

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Thirty years ago, David Foster Wallace reported “The String Theory,” an essay about a pro tennis player named Michael Joyce. No, Joyce wasn’t as good as his fellow Americans (Andre Agassi, Pete Sampras, Michael Chang). But what Joyce taught Wallace — the best writer of his generation, and a former junior player himself — turned into the greatest tennis essay of all time. Today, in the middle of the U.S. Open, Pablo sits down with Michael Joyce — who’s since become a coach to players like Maria Sharapova — and they dissect the genius and the eccentricities of David Foster Wallace, who died in 2008. And we learn about the psychologies of two grotesque glories: writing and tennis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to Pablo Torrey finds out. I am Pablo Torrey and today we're going to find out what this sound is.

0:06.0

Wimbledon is where I read it and I remember reading and I was like, what the fuck is this?

0:11.0

Right after this ad.

0:13.0

You're listening to Draft Kings Network. Michael Joyce, do you know why I summoned you into this room today?

0:33.8

A little bit, David Foster Wallace.

0:35.8

Yeah, yeah, I've never done an episode like this where I'm like, let me talk to

0:40.3

the subject of one of the greatest essays that has ever been written and I was just curious at the start like how often does this happen where someone wants to talk to you about David Foster Wallace?

0:52.0

You'd be surprised a lot.

0:53.8

Okay, so that actually does make sense to me.

1:01.4

It does make sense that I would be far from the only person who has

1:04.5

wanted to find out the story behind a masterpiece of writing. A masterpiece, by the

1:11.2

way, that you don't need to have read in order to appreciate this episode.

1:16.4

Although I do think that you need to meet our pair of disparate,

1:19.9

and as you will see, cosmically connected characters.

1:25.6

Because the subject of this piece,

1:27.3

who is in studio with me today,

1:29.1

is Michael Choice, a pro tennis player in the 90s whose relative anonymity is what drew the

1:35.8

curiosity of the piece's author. The famously eccentric David Foster Wallace, an elusive genius and cripplingly self-conscious critic, and a guy

1:48.7

that the New York Times once posthumously called the best mind of his generation.

1:56.4

Wallace spent large portions of his life,

1:59.2

scrutinizing and playing, one sport in particular as he discussed with Charlie Rose in

2:07.4

1997. Do you still play tennis? I do play tennis. I no longer play competitively.

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