Greetings and welcome to the Pastor Mike Drop podcast. My name is Mike Householder, and I'm joined by my co-host Emily Langfall.

Hello. Hi, Emily. How are you? I'm good. How are you? I am really good, and I'm excited for this conversation today.

And maybe it's just because I like talking about all things theological and faith and God and daily life.

Well, that's kind of what this podcast is all about, right?

Yeah.

So glad you like it.

I'm glad I like it too. So if you're new to the Pastor Mike Drop podcast, we're here to talk about faith, life, and the intersections where Christ and culture hang out.

And to help us do that today, we are joined by two distinguished professors and brilliant scholars.

We're saying, you know, what happens when brilliant scholars hang out

in this daily life kind of challenge that we're in right now with COVID-19? So would you

introduce our guests, please? Yes. Well, we have two doctors with us. Dr. Terry here on

the right side of the screen is with a seminary and Dr. Russ Lacky with Grandview University here in

Des Moines. That's it. Terry and Russ, welcome. We're glad that you're both here. Great to be here.

Thanks. Yeah. Thank you. So I know you both pretty well. Little known fact, maybe for some people. Terry and I

actually went to college together

we were in the same class with many of the same classes together because I think we had the

same major back in the day Concordia College go Cobbers in Moorhead Minnesota that was our name

okay that's kind of what people say yeah let, let's just keep moving. Should we just

move right on? And Russ, you are the senior campus minister at Grandview University,

and you teach there as well. Let me ask you guys this. How does one become a professor in a religion professor in college or in

seminary what and and why what what leads you to that what inspired what's your story russ let's start

with you yeah for me i i didn't sit out to work on their college campus. I was a pastor. I was ordained. I worked in Southern California. And then an opportunity to serve the campus at Grandview as their campus pastor occurred. And I came on. I was here. I wanted to be with the students. And then some students asked if I teach a class and the religion department said, hey, will you let them teach a class?

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