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Radical Candor: Communication at Work

Radical Candor

Careers, Relationships, Society & Culture, Business

4.7 • 740 Ratings

🗓️ 27 August 2020

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Kim and Jason answer listener questions and share their experiences about being a boss who's younger than their direct reports and having their wings clipped by an absentee manager who isn't invested in their success. They also agree that chair-throwing management styles aren't an effective way to get things done (as Kim learned when she threw her bike helmet at a window when dealing with a bad boss at a former job). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Radical Cander podcast. I'm Kim Scott, author of Radical Cander,
0:11.0	and co-founder of Radical Cander, the company. That's a lot of radical. And I'm Jason
0:17.2	Roseoff, CEO and co-founder of Radical Cander. And I'm Amy Sandler, your host for the Radical Cander podcast. And today, we're answering
0:25.4	your question. So let's jump in. The question reads, I'm a youngish 32 director who's been
0:32.8	assigned two people older than me in their mid-50s who are my direct reports. I respect and appreciate their
0:38.4	tenure and experience and want to express that without sounding patronizing. I also want to make sure
0:44.1	there's no bad blood in terms of age that I'm much younger. So Kim, what's the first thing you
0:50.3	want to do in this type of scenario? First of all, I want to say that I feel the pain of
0:57.1	this listener. It's really hard and really tricky. In fact, in my career, I went from always being
1:04.1	very much the youngest to all of a sudden one day being the very oldest. It was very disorienting.
1:09.8	So having some empathy for both sides of that
1:12.4	equation, I think, can help. One of the most intense experiences I had with this was when I started a
1:20.3	software company called Juice and was out looking for a co-founder. I needed a technical co-founder.
1:26.8	So the CTO of the company was also my co-founder. I needed a technical co-founder. So the CTO of the company was also
1:29.2	my co-founder, and he was in his 50s, and I was in my 30s. Maybe he wasn't that much older,
1:36.4	but it seemed like it at the time, actually, come to think of it. I don't want to exaggerate
1:41.8	Alan Warren, if you're out there listening. But he had a lot more
1:45.2	more than I did and I was intimidated, more than a little intimidated. And I was also sort of,
1:52.0	I didn't know how to handle it. So I did for Alan what someone had done for me once, which was
1:59.9	I went to Alan and I said, you know, in another
2:04.1	situation, I can imagine that I'd be reporting to you. And I'd be honored and happy to report
2:11.0	to you. And I'm looking forward to working with you and to learning a lot from you. And I just
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