Thank you for listening to the Allender Center podcast.

I'm Dr. Dan Allender.

And I'm Rachel Clinton-Centen.

We're fiercely committed to providing hope and healing to a fragmented world.

And restoration for the heart.

Thank you for joining us.

Let's get this conversation started.

Well, we are toward the end of dealing with this topic of marriage.

And one of the concerns that exists often in a couple-oriented world is that single people often feel very excluded and rightfully so. And on the other hand, I've encountered a number of singles who would say

they don't really have a lot to say about marriage because they're not married. And that has struck

me always as a tremendous loss, not only for single people, but for married couples. There is

so much wisdom in the two people that we're going to be interacting with today, people that have been, oh, my goodness,

so central to the beginning and the following, the entry and the exit of these podcasts. And so

let me introduce, Bo first. Bo was the curate partner for, Bo, how many years? I was going to say somewhere around

17 to 30. I think it was closer to five years, maybe, four or five years. But you know in our circles,

you know, a year is pretty much a dog year.

So it's not far to say.

You've done about 35 years worth of work on our behalf.

And Bo as a content curator, would listen to each podcast, interact with it, often condense it in terms of trying to find language to help people know

what we're trying to engage, and just did a phenomenal, gifted, remarkable job for us.

So, Beau, it's so delightful to have you back.

And I will introduce Ashley, who's in so many ways, one of my bosses as the

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