Welcome to the Crazy Love Podcast. To anyone with experience, raising children can have

its difficulties. But even in those times, God's immeasurable greatness can still be felt.

In this week's episode, we continue with part 2 of a question and answer session between

Francis and Lisa, and members from Wyamcona. The chance to share their experience raising

their seven children, lessons they've learned individually, and as a family, and how the

overwhelming goodness of God can be seen all throughout. We pray that this message brings

you nearer to Him and gives you a fresh revelation of the worth of Jesus.

Something that I've noticed a lot and being really struck by, and it's like impacted

me since being here, is just seeing how your family loves Jesus and the way you've raised

your kids to walk with Him and seeing Rachel and Justin and Peter and Mercy, and just

doing all this with you. You're doing ministry as family. I just want to hear from you guys

what that, what have you guys done to be able to hub your kids, do that with you, and

then just to be so in love with Jesus, like all of them.

Okay, I'll go first. It's the grace of God, first of all. There was a time when Rachel,

when she was like 12, 13, I could not get her to tell the truth for the life of me. Like

everything coming out of her mouth was a lie, and I was just like, what the heck? It got

to the point where Lisa even asked, like, do you think we just screwed up? You know,

and I'm like, no, I mean, we're not perfect. I said, but we've lived it, and it's been

real. And I said, my understanding of the Bible is I can't control the Holy Spirit entering

her or not. This is something between her and God. I said, we could lock her in a room

until she's 18 and keep her from sinning in, you know, terrifying ways. I go, but the

moment she turns 18, if the Holy Spirit's not in her, she's just going to run into her

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