Welcome to Outrage and Optimism, the podcast that tackles the biggest challenge of our time with the urgency it demands and the hope it deserves.

This is a huge moment for the world and the climate and so we are back with a new look, bigger and better than ever.

Yes, friends, this is the climate podcast for anyone simply not ready to give up

on being able to create a much better world. We are on the verge of the greatest transformation

in human history. 2025 is going to be the year where we find out if we're serious about dealing with this issue.

I'm Tom Rivikarnak.

I'm Christiana Figueres.

And I'm Paul Digginson.

From the voices on the front lines to the decision makers shaping our future.

There is a profound moral reason why we're doing what we're doing. It's a morality

that concerns the whole of the animals and plants that exist in this world. I've seen places

that were absolutely destroyed by us, but give them time and help and they can come back.

If we can get the motivation, that everything else we need is already there.

This is it. It happens now or it doesn't happen at all. This is the consequential year.

So because we're not very good at introducing ourselves, we thought we would introduce each other.

So who is Tom Rivett Karnak? My very first conversation with Tom, I was

thoroughly convinced that he would be a key sale on the ship of getting the Paris Agreement to port.

Your next, Paul? The Paul Dickinson. And neither or I are capable of speaking unless Tom has just said something.

Oh, Paul, who are you?

And what do you do?

My name is Paul Dickinson, and I'm doing a podcast with Christiana Figuera's.

And in addition, I have spent 24 years working full-time on climate change almost entirely

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