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Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

Reimagining Leadership & Protests with Eddie S. Glaude Jr.

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

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News, Nbcnews, Why Is This Happening?, The Chris Hayes Podcast, Chris Hayes, Politics, Government, Society & Culture, Msnbc, Withpod

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2024

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Its been four years since the murder of George Floyd at the hands Minneapolis police officers and the unrest that was unleashed in the wake of his death. And now we’re in a moment where another global protest movement is flourishing in denouncement of the Israeli war in Gaza. This week, we’re taking a look at the historical lineage and efficacy of protests, as well as ways we might rethink mobilization. Our guest this week has spent decades researching and writing about the dynamic nature and effectiveness of social movements. Eddie S. Glaude Jr. is the James S. McDonnell distinguished professor of African American studies at Princeton University and is the author of numerous books including his latest, “We Are the Leaders We Have Been Looking For.” Glaude joins WITHpod to discuss inflection points in historical and contemporary mass movements, reaction to recent protests on college campuses, why he says we must avoid “outsourcing” change and more.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This Democratic work is hard work, but it has its anchor in the hard work that we do on ourselves.

0:15.0

I believe a coalition of the decent, a coalition of the decent,

0:19.0

is absolutely required for the fundamental transformation of this society.

0:23.0

And that begins with looking ourselves squarely in the face. Hello and welcome to Why is this happening with me your host Chris Hayes.

0:34.0

On May 25th of this year, you will be hearing this podcast after that date has passed.

0:46.3

It will be the fourth anniversary of the murder of George Floyd at the hands of

0:50.5

Minneapolis police officers.

0:55.8

And not just the anniversary of his death but an anniversary of the protests and unrest that was unleashed in the wake of

1:02.4

his death.

1:03.0

Depending on how you count it,

1:06.0

they may have been the largest civil rights racial equality protests of all time.

1:11.0

Sort of stunning statistics about the number of people,

1:14.4

tens of millions of people that took the streets in all sorts of places in states that we think of as

1:20.3

progressive and states that we think of as conservative in all sorts of different areas.

1:25.1

And also interestingly, and this was something that was borne out by the polling at the time,

1:30.3

despite the fact that many of the protests did feature things like property damage that the police precinct in Minneapolis was burned down that people's windows were smashed, despite that by and large the protests pulled quite well. They were quite popular and that is not the usual case.

1:50.0

Most of the time large-scale protests at the time poll poorly in fact recently in the wake of student

1:56.9

campus protests against the Israeli war in Gaza and the US support thereof.

2:01.1

People have been recirculating polling about the Vietnam War or

2:04.8

pulling on protests on the Vietnam War or the civil rights movement at the time, which were by

2:10.0

and large unpopular. And partly, it's almost tautological because a protest

2:15.6

is a means of agitating and creating tension

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