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Refuting Oriental Orthodoxy (& Sam Shamoun) Part 3: Paradigms as Presupposition

Jay'sAnalysis

Jay Dyer

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🗓️ 17 June 2025

⏱️ 138 minutes

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Qai from OS and David Erhan join me to continue our series refuting the Orientals. This is part 3. Orthodox Shahada is here  @OrthodoxShahada  Part 2: https://youtu.be/IurUmmCSLg4 Part 1: https://youtu.be/SHbyK2KoPfE Send Superchats at any time here: https://streamlabs.com/jaydyer/tip Join this channel to get access to perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnt7Iy8GlmdPwy_Tzyx93bA/join PRE-Order New Book Available in JULY here: https://jaysanalysis.com/product/esoteric-hollywood-3-sex-cults-apocalypse-in-films/ Get started with Bitcoin here: https://www.swanbitcoin.com/jaydyer/ The New Philosophy Course is here: https://marketplace.autonomyagora.com/philosophy101 Set up recurring Choq subscription with the discount code JAY44LIFE for 44% off now https://choq.com Lore coffee is here: https://www.patristicfaith.com/coffee/ Orders for the Red Book are here: https://jaysanalysis.com/product/the-red-book-essays-on-theology-philosophy-new-jay-dyer-book/ Subscribe to my site here: https://jaysanalysis.com/membership-account/membership-levels/ Follow me on R0kfin here: https://rokfin.com/jaydyer Music by Amid the Ruins 1453

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0:00.0

All right, welcome to another live stream.

0:07.9

This will be technically part two because the previous ones were a two-parter of part one.

0:14.9

So this is part two.

0:16.3

We'll be talking tonight about paradigms.

0:18.8

I don't know how far we're going to get into the other ones here,

0:21.4

but Kai, can you explain where you intend to go tonight?

0:23.7

I want to do another live stream we do. This will be technically, there's an echo on your.

0:29.2

Yeah, sorry, that was me. Sorry, I had the stream open. Yeah, so basically part two, I envision

0:34.1

it's going to be basically three series. We're going to look at paradigms.

0:38.9

We're going to look at composite hypostasis and then essence energy's distinction.

0:43.5

So tonight we're just going to focus on paradigms, why they're important, how we can use them,

0:48.6

and just kind of look at St. Cyril and some of his language and try to understand his paradigm.

0:53.3

I've been making some posts about it.

0:55.6

The Oriental crowd and Sam, they've been criticizing paradigms.

1:00.2

They basically don't really understand why we use them and how they can be useful.

1:06.4

So hopefully this is going to clear up a lot of stuff for a lot of people tonight.

1:11.2

And then that's going to lead us into the next stream afterwards to talk about composite hepostasis.

1:16.0

This is language that is used by a lot of the fathers, from early on, even to the 20th century.

1:22.4

Like you'll see it being used by St. Justin Popovich.

1:25.9

So it's quite a common term to be used, but a lot of people misunderstand what exactly

1:32.9

compitipostasis means.

1:34.8

Very common in St. Maximus.

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