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Hello and welcome to a little something extra from the Food Program with me, Jaga Wise.

You may have listened to our Run program, or if you haven't you should go and listen on BBC Sounds

But in the making of this program we came across some interesting moments that we wanted to explore a little further

And by we I mean myself and producer Nina Pullman.

Hello Nina! Hi Jago, great to be here with you. So yes, we've made this program about

rum, which was your idea really.

So why did you want to look into this?

The reason why I was so interested in this story is because I keep seeing it everywhere. I keep seeing lots of new rum producers

been given really, really tasty drinks and there's been a general rumble in the UK drinks industry about rum and lots of the new producers doing really interesting things.

My family are from the Caribbean so for me rum is part of my personal history.

It's something that I have grown up with. There's always been a bottle of rum around.

So for me I really wanted to dig a little bit deeper

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