Shrud family this week on Barbell Shrugged, Matt Bo Drow is coming into the

podcast and he is the founder of Apogee Strong, Apogee Schools, and this is

another one of those that is very near and dear to my heart specifically when it comes to youth development not just in the kind of physical side of things that we talk about a decent amount of how do we like get our kids eat better train better, but how are we actually like building leadership

schools? And Matt owns an affiliate network of schools called Apogee Kids, Apogee

schools, and there actually happens to be one that is starting very close to me.

I'm going to sit down, actually had coffee with the owner of it,

something that I'm actively pursuing on our side

for education, for our kids.

And the entire thing is really built out of play which is something that I

absolutely love and one of the things that happened as soon as my daughter got to

kindergarten and this absolutely just like ripped my heart out.

There's the obvious transitionary time

where things just are kind of crazy going

from daycare to kindergarten, etc.

Being around more kids, older kids, etc.

But finding out about a month into it when she started to say that she was

struggling because there was such a lack of play and somebody that lives and

the ability to get out, play, train, have fun, run around and kind of like the physical freedom side of things, it absolutely crushed me.

And this kind of like alternative side to education based in play, building leadership, having older kids around you.

So your mentors and your leaders aren't just more adults talking at you, but actually having older kids maybe one year maybe two

years maybe four years a little bit older than you so you have this progression of

understanding what does an older kid or how do you learn from kids that are slightly further ahead of

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