Let's roll, let's roll, never get their control.

They've got their money, but we've got our soul.

Let's roll, let's roll, let's roll, never get their control.

They've got their money, but we've got our soul.

Welcome to Redact to the Night VIP.

I'm Lee Camp.

I have two big guests for you today.

First, I'll speak with Ron Purser, the author of a book that is getting a lot of buzz, McMindfulness, how mindfulness became

the new capitalist spirituality. Apparently the mindfulness revolution is a bit of a con.

In the second half, I have in studio, the founder and executive director of

crushing colonialism in international indigenous multimedia collective.

She's also a citizen of the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma, as well as an activist for the LGBT

and disabled communities.

On top of that, she's an incredible writer and journalist.

We'll get into the controversy over Elizabeth Warren's native background, or lack thereof,

plus the pipeline fights across the country and so much more.

But first, here's my conversation with author Ron Perser.

Hi, Ron. Thanks for joining me.

Hi, Lee. Thanks for joining me. Hi, Lee.

Thanks for having me on.

So you've written a great book about mindfulness,

which is a new hot trend over the past several years.

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