Redacted Epstein files reveal 'little new insight'
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🗓️ 22 December 2025
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Then, the Kentucky bourbon brand Jim Beam will pause operations at its main distillery in January 2026, with no clarity on whether it will be a long or short term move. Bourbon historian Susan Reigler joins us.
And, the Lumbee Tribe has been pushing for federal recognition for more than a century. Last week, they finally achieved that goal through the passage of a defense bill in Congress. But not all tribes are happy about the recognition. AP's Graham Lee Brewer tells us more.
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| 0:00.0 | Support for here and now anytime comes from MathWorks, creator of MATLAB and Simulink software for technical computing and model-based design. |
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| 0:17.4 | WBWR Podcasts, Boston. |
| 0:21.8 | We are in every way, shape, and form complying with this statute, which, by the way, |
| 0:27.3 | is what President Trump has been asking us to do since before he was elected. |
| 0:32.0 | There is nothing that he has to hide in the Epsine files. |
| 0:34.9 | There never was. |
| 0:37.6 | The trap administration is once again on defense over its handling of files |
| 0:42.4 | related to well-connected sex offender, Jeffrey Epstein. |
| 1:00.5 | It's Monday, December 22nd, and this is here and now anytime from NPR and WBOR. |
| 1:01.7 | I'm Chris Bentley. |
| 1:11.9 | Today on the show, why the maker of one of Kentucky's most popular bourbons is pausing production at its main distillery. |
| 1:20.6 | Also, the recent National Defense Authorization Act included some non-military items, like the federal recognition of the Lumby tribe. Some people in North Carolina have been calling for |
| 1:25.5 | recognition for decades, but other tribes have |
| 1:28.6 | questioned the Lumby's authenticity. This is a huge moment for the Lumby. You're talking about |
| 1:34.3 | 60,000 people. They would become overnight one of the largest tribes in the country, and that's |
| 1:39.1 | going to open them up to being able to take land into trust, create a reservation, and then become part of the casino |
| 1:45.7 | gaming industry. That story coming up at about 10 minutes. But first, the Department of Justice |
| 1:52.1 | says more Epstein files are coming after many mocked the heavy redactions in Friday's document dump. |
| 2:00.0 | Attorney General Pam Bondi was supposed to release |
| 2:02.2 | all of the documents with limited exceptions by last Friday at midnight under a law passed by Congress. |
| 2:09.0 | She did not, only making about half of them public, including hundreds of pages entirely blacked out, |
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