Hello and welcome to this bonus episode of Red Lines. As we know very well, things are far from straightforward in the world of unionism these days.

There are many different shades of opinion on many different topics. So could the unionist side of the house do with a bit of a political reset, as the former leader of the Ulster Unionist Party, Mike Nesbitt, suggested this week,

would two new unionist parties, one based around more traditional views and one more socially

progressive, prove to be something of a game changer? We asked Darren Marshall to sit down

with Gareth Gordon, Suzanne Breen and Alex Kane to divvy up the current crop of politicians into these two new,

notional parties, just for a bit of fun.

Keep listening to find out where they think Ian Paisley and Tom Elliott might end up,

but our expert panel begin with the veteran DUP MP Gregory Campbell.

This is an easy one, I think, and this is a trick question.

He's in the traditional party.

Do you all agree?

I think Gregory's a wee bit of enigma

because he is quite close to Geoffrey Donaldson and DUP headquarters

and a lot of things.

He's regarded among the MPs as a safe pair of hands

in the way that say Ian Paisley and Sammy Wilson wouldn't be, but I probably do agree with Garth. I would put it in traditional.

He's an enigma, but there are other enigmas that you're going to show us.

Before he started. I think I'm going to enter one caveat in this game. I think we may decide

where they're going to go, but in terms of where they

would put themselves, a lot will depend on what they think the electoral chances of the other

party are. Because if you say to someone who's already elected somewhere, a key player

somewhere, say, would you like to join this new party and I think it's not going to win

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