All right listeners welcome to episode 52 of Know Your Enemy. I'm Matt Sipman your podcast co-host

I'm here with my great friend Sam other Bell. Hey Sam. Hi Matt. How are you doing today? I'm good

Good me too, and I'm especially excited to get this episode out into the world because it's a

It's a barn burner. It is. It really touches on a lot of classic Know Your Enemy themes. Yes political conversions trajectories

Freudian aspects even I'm so glad you said it. Yeah, we got some Freud

We got some Catholicism. We got some Judaism. We've hit all of our bases. Well to unveil the topic

We took a deep dive into David Horowitz's memoir radical son published in 1996

David Horowitz is a

ex-new left radical grew up a red diaper baby, but he's a little too young to be a neo-con

So he fits into the history of the right I think in a interesting way

And we had a great guest on who made us read this

Ari Brostoff the author of a wonderful new essay collection called Missing Time and in that collection

They review Vivian Gorenex Romance of American Communism. I think the reprint of it

And so the the themes of of generations and conversions and trajectories obviously

There's a lot of connections there and and they were just a great guest to have on

Ari's also the senior editor of Jewish Currents where I write sometimes

And so has a has a deep knowledge of sort of Jewish leftist history and

Unfortunately Jewish right wing

politics as well

And so David Horowitz is kind of like a perfect synectic key for all of these issues that are he's really interested in that

That I've had a lot of conversation with them about so

I think listeners can sort of imagine the constellation of things we're talking about here. It's it's transitions

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