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wall builders. Later in the program, the program Ken Ivory will join us I'm

Rick Green here with David and Tim Barton guys can state representative Ken Ivory

got a big lawsuit filed just a few days ago we've had him on many times she's

spoken in legislators conference about this issue of federal

lands and having, I don't know, 60, 70, 80 percent of a lot of these states and federal property.

This lawsuit could potentially turn that around.

Yeah, this is a huge, huge lawsuit.

I think this is something that can completely shift the tide because for about 130 years

the federal government has believed it could do anything it wanted to.

It could control the Western lands to spot the contract they have with the states, it can take those

lands and now it tells people who can hunt on them, who can farm around around them what you can do with it.

Everything about those lands has given them control over private property and so many others

and it's just not precedent.

And so if this thing goes through and we think there's a good probability that the courts are going to rule against the states in this based on the history of this, if that occurs, this will be a massive shift of power, a massive reigning end of the power of the federal government in both public and private areas.

I think this is a massive massive lawsuit.

I think the results could be absolutely phenomenal for America.

Well and this is something we've seen a Supreme Court who has shown themselves very

willing to take on some very significant issues where the federal government or prior Supreme

Courts had overstepped the balance.

And so this is absolutely the perfect time with a court and I'm saying I want to say the perfect court I don't think it is we've we

already saw like in the title nine you know a five four decision with gorsage on the other

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