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The Curbsiders Internal Medicine Podcast

REBOOT #48 Hyponatremia Deconstructed

The Curbsiders Internal Medicine Podcast

The Curbsiders Internal Medicine Podcast

Health & Fitness, Medicine, Science, Higher Education, Education

4.8 • 3.1K Ratings

🗓️ 7 September 2020

⏱️ 89 minutes

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Summary

Take your salt game to the next-next level. We brushed off this fan favorite episode and rebooted #48 hyponatremia deconstructed with our Chief of Nephrology, Dr. Joel Topf aka @kidney_boy aka The Salt Whisperer for your CME earning pleasure. Learn the correct steps to diagnose and manage this common and dangerous condition. Topics covered include: true versus false hyponatremia, SIADH, tea and toast hyponatremia, beer potomania, safe rates of sodium correction, IV fluid choice, vaptans and more.

Listeners can claim Free CE credit through VCU Health at http://curbsiders.vcuhealth.org/ (CME goes live at 0900 ET on the episode’s release date).

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Credits
  • Original episode written and produced by: Matthew Watto MD, FACP
  • Show Notes and CME questions by: Deb Gorth ScM
  • Cover Art and Infographic by: Edison Jyang
  • Hosts: Stuart Brigham MD; Matthew Watto MD, FACP; Paul Williams MD, FACP
  • Editor: Molly Heublein (written materials); Matthew Watto MD (audio)
  • Guest: Joel Topf MD

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VCU Health CE

The Curbsiders are partnering with VCU Health Continuing Education to offer FREE continuing education credits for physicians and other healthcare professionals. Visit curbsiders.vcuhealth.org and search for this episode to claim credit. Note: A free VCU Health CloudCME account is required in order to seek credit.

Time Stamps
  • 00:00 Intro
  • 03:30 Guest interview
  • 07:15 Pick of the week w/Dr. Topf
  • 16:20 Clinical case of hyponatremia
  • 17:48 False hyponatremia normal osmolality
  • 19:34 False hyponatremia high osmolality
  • 20:36 Understanding why osmolality matters
  • 23:28 Workup false hyponatremia
  • 24:45 Recap of discussion so far
  • 25:40 ADH dependent vs independent hyponatremia
  • 27:00 Psychogenic polydipsia
  • 289:15 Renal failure and hyponatremia
  • 30:03 Tea and toast, and Beer Drinker’s potomania
  • 35:22 ADH dependent hyponatremia
  • 38:15 Volume versus osmolality
  • 40:00 Volume status exam
  • 45:14 Additional testing with urine lytes and uric acid
  • 47:30 Treatment for SIADH
  • 52:42 Discussion of the vaptans
  • 58:21 Additional testing in SIADH
  • 62:50 When to admit patient for hyponatremia
  • 63:59 Clinical case of hyponatremia complications
  • 68:56 Fluids and rate of correction
  • 73:36 DDAVP clamp
  • 76:30 Moderate hyponatremia
  • 78:35 Diuretic dosing DOES matter!
  • 81:59 Loop diuretics for SIADH
  • 84:25 Take home points
  • 87:25 Outro

Links*
  1. Dr. Joel Topf’s Textbook
  2. Dr. Joel Topf’s Blog
  3. Dungeons and Dragons
  4. Tartine (cookbook) by Elizabeth M. Prueitt
  5. I Hate You, Don’t Leave Me by Hall Strauss
  6. Intentional Parenting by Sissy Goff
  7. Mindset by Carol Dweck
  8. Nintendo Switch
  9. 8.0 Bit Techno- The Curbsiders Theme Song by Stuart Kent Brigham
  10. Ure-Na
  11. European Society of Endocrinology Clinical Practice Guidelines.
  12. Don’t miss Dr. Topf on twitter aka @kidney_boy.

*The Curbsiders participates in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising commissions by linking to Amazon. Simply put, if you click on our Amazon.com links and buy something we earn a (very) small commission, yet you don’t pay any extra.

Goal

Listeners will recall the pathophysiology of hyponatremia and develop a systematized approach to identifying the type and cause of hyponatremia, as well as how to safely manage hyponatremia.

Learning objectives

After listening to this episode listeners will…

  1. Differentiate true and false hyponatremia
  2. Recall the pathophysiology of true and false hyponatremia
  3. Interpret blood and urine tests to identify the cause of hyponatremia
  4. Recall the limitations of the volume status exam
  5. List ADH dependent causes of hyponatremia
  6. List ADH independent causes of hyponatremia
  7. Explain the pathophysiology of beer drinker’s potomania and “tea and toast” hyponatremia
  8. Use uric acid to differentiate SIADH from other causes of hyponatremia
  9. Basic therapy for SIADH
  10. Recall safe rates of correction for hyponatremia

Disclosures

Dr. Topf has received honoraria from AstraZeneca and Cara Therapeutics. He is joint venture partner in Davita Dialysis centers receiving dividends. The Curbsiders report no relevant financial disclosures.

Citation

Topf J, Gorth DJ, Williams PN, Brigham SK, Heublein M, Jyang E, Watto MF. “REBOOT #48 Hyponatremia Deconstructed”. The Curbsiders Internal Medicine Podcast. https://thecurbsiders.com/episode-list Original air date: July 17, 2017; Updated September 7, 2020.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, curbsiders. We are hard at work making brand new episodes of the show.

0:04.6

Today, we are rebooting one of our most popular episodes of all time.

0:08.8

It's on hyponatremia with our chief in the froggy, Dr. Joltoff,

0:13.2

aka AtKinney underscore boy.

0:16.1

We have new show notes. We have infographics and you can get free

0:20.8

CME credit through our partner, VCU at curbsiders.vcuhealth.org.

0:27.5

You know what? I just stepped out of what I know.

0:31.1

So, right? See, see if you guys were residents, I would just lie like a dog.

0:38.3

Right? And you're going to put this on the internet and someone's going to be like,

0:41.8

oh, that dark doesn't know what he's talking about.

0:58.5

Welcome back to the curbsiders. Hello, Matt. Hello, Stuart. Hi. Hi.

1:04.9

I'm at my mom's house, not not recording with you from the podcast for it,

1:09.5

which is kind of sad. Yeah. No, not my own house. Now I'm in my childhood podcast

1:16.8

for it, I guess you could say, at my mom's house, but soon hopefully will be in a

1:21.5

in a grown-up house. Paul, are you also here? Yeah, no, that's that's

1:27.3

sad in any number of ways, really just no matter how you slice it.

1:32.9

And that's Dr. Paul Williams. This is kind of a weird intro because I don't think I

1:36.7

introduce what we do on the show, which is we use expert interviews to bring you clinical

1:41.7

pearls and practice changing knowledge. I actually like this new format of just starting with

1:47.2

abusing you and then talking about the topic. I feel like this is going to break out.

1:51.1

I like it. It's more natural. The audience, the audience will probably like it.

1:56.1

I'm sorry that Dr. Toff missed this because I'm sure he would have liked this too.

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