Rebecca Traister and Avi Klein — #MeToo Through a Solutions Lens

On Being with Krista Tippett

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Sociology, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Krista Tippett, Arts, Culture, On Being, Society, Society & Culture, Science, Social Sciences

4.7 • 10.2K Ratings

🗓️ 6 December 2018

⏱️ 52 minutes

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The feminist journalist and the psychotherapist. “It’s partners and lovers and spouses…fathers and brothers and sons and friends.” The difference between apology and forgiveness. “Men are used to trying to fix things.” Trauma, and also healing. What we are naming with the impetus of #MeToo is, at best, an opening to a long-term cultural reckoning to grow up humanity; to make our society more whole. We explore this with psychotherapist Avi Klein, who works with men and couples, and feminist journalist Rebecca Traister. In a room full of journalists, at the invitation of the Solutions Journalism Network, we explored how to build the spaces, the imaginative muscle, and the pragmatic forms to support healing for women and men, now and in time. Rebecca Traister is a writer for “New York Magazine” and a contributing editor at “Elle.” She is the author of “Big Girls Don’t Cry,” “All the Single Ladies,” and “Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger.” Avi Klein is a psychotherapist and licensed clinical social worker. He practices in Manhattan. His 2018 “New York Times” Op-Ed piece is titled “What Men Say About #MeToo in Therapy.” Find the transcript for this show at onbeing.org.

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0:46.1	The work of healing has not had much of a place in the complex of
0:49.9	reckoning in the past year that we can dense into the hashtag me too.
0:54.9	But surely what we are naming and wrapping our arms around with the impetus of me too,
1:00.4	is at best an opening to a long-term cultural reckoning to grow up humanity,
1:06.4	to make our society more whole.
1:09.3	I walked with some trepidation onto this territory.
1:12.4	At the invitation of the Solutions Journalism Network,
1:15.6	together with feminist journalist Rebecca Traster and psychotherapist Avi Klein,
1:21.0	who works primarily with men and couples.
1:23.9	In a room full of journalists, we explored how they and all the rest of us
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