So Rebecca, we have a number of different questions from the listeners.

For you to answer, what do you say we read the questions and you can answer them?

What do you say Rebecca?

I'm really ready, but just so everyone knows I'm having to stay perfectly still and that's hard for me.

Yeah, so we're recording remotely and that means that I have to coach Rebecca on how to

deal with microphones and background noise and it's a huge hardship.

Soon we'll be completely inoculated and Rebecca can come back to my office and I can set up

the microphones and I can do all the sound treatments and all of our hardships will be over.

This is the Psychology and Seattle podcast. I'm your host, Dr. Kirk Honda. I'm a therapist and

a professor. Who are you, Rebecca?

Hey, I'm Rebecca Bloom. I'm a talk or semantic therapist in South Seattle.

So this first question is from Facebook. We have a number I asked people on Facebook,

hey, you know, what questions do you have for Rebecca? Danny says, I'd be interested in what

an art therapy session looks like and what therapeutic techniques as a therapist uses

to help clients with their issues. What distinguishes art therapy from an art class?

What do you say to that Rebecca?

So in an art class, you're usually all learning to do the same thing. So the teacher shows an

example and you all work to your best to do it a version of that, see, example. In an art therapy,

it can be everything from open studio to you come in and do whatever you want with the materials

or I work a little bit more directive based. So I'll suggest something but I know the client

may interpret that in any kind of way and also I know that their art skills are going to be

that we're not working on perfection, we're working on the process. So we're not trying to look

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