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slash voxpod this is recode media of peter kofka that is me today I'm talking to james

stewart normally just sort of wander into these conversations, but I wanted to give James Stewart a formal introduction. So here we go. James B. Stewart is the dean of investigative business journalist. He's a Pulitzer Prize winning author who's worked as a lawyer and editor at the Wall Street Journal. He's now at the New York Times. He's written close to a dozen books. Are we at a dozen yet? We're at 11.

11, close to a dozen, including Disney Wars. That's the definitive story of the beginning of the Bob Iger era. And he's the co-author of unscripted, the epic battle for a media empire and the Redstone family legacy. Now, that's as formal as an introduction as I gave James Stewart. Well, thank you. I'm flattered.

Thanks for coming.

I was telling you off, Mike, I'm flattered. Thanks for coming.

I'm just telling you off, Mike, I've been hearing about you for years because if you're in business journalism, you hear about James Stewart or Jim Stewart, his rules for how to do reporting. You read his books. Plenty people I know who listen to this podcast have read Disney Wars among your other work. and so I delighted you came in to talk about this book you co-authored with Rachel Abrams.

It's about the end of the Redstone era, the end of the Les Moonvese era,

beginning of a new era of a much diminished CBS Viacom Empire. What did you want to do going into this

book? Because some of these topics have been covered before. I've had Kichagie

come in and talk about her Redstone book. You've done reporting on this stuff in the New York Times.

What did you hope to get out of a book like this? Well, you're right. Plenty of this has been made

headlines and from, you know, tabloids to business reporting. And yet this was an incredible

opportunity because, you know, working with Rachel,

we got a lot of confidential sources who handed over a trove of, you know, firsthand information,

text, emails, transcripts, like I've never encountered in my decades of reporting.

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