Hey everybody, it's Brian. Before I did this Seahawks stuff full time, I worked as a manager and senior leader, so I know how lonely it can be to try to find someone you trust to talk through people issues, org issues, process issues, as you try to lead an organization.

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discovery session to see if it's a good fit for you. Just go to Ryancleveland.com to another episode of Real Hawk Talk. I am Brian Nemhouser and I'm only doing one Seahawks podcast today instead of my normal like three or four shows that's been a day, it seems like lately. And there was no Seahawks practice today, no attendance at the V-Mac by media.

So I am really looking forward to having a conversation with my two good buddies,

Jeff Simmons at Real Jeff Simmons on Twitter, as well as Nathan Ernst at Nathan E11.

As we welcome in, Pete Carroll and the Las Vegas Raiders.

Everything about that sentence sounds weird to me.

Tomorrow night because the Seahawks are officially back.

Preseason football is just about 24 hours away.

Nathan, are you a guy?

First of all, how are you doing?

How are you doing?

I'm doing good. I'm doing good you doing? Oh, I'm doing good.

I'm doing good.

How about you?

I'm doing well. You know, it had a little rain today, right? So that was, you know, didn't like that either. But it did get nicer. I just took a nice walk with Finn. So that was good. And I've got to say, it was nice to have a little bit of a slower day.

Yeah, I bet.

Yeah, you're slacking only doing one podcast. that was good and I gotta say it was nice to have a little bit of a slower day yeah I bet yeah

you're slack and only doing one podcast that must be nice it is it is are you are you a guy that

tunes into preseason football oh 100% yeah yeah okay and I mean instantly regret it you know

the Hall of Fame game every year, I'm so excited. And every year I know, like, it's the worst football product I will watch all year. And this one didn't really disappoint. Like, it was pretty ugly. But no, I'm right there. I'm watching. And then I'm just mad about it and like, oh, this sucks.

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