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This Day in Esoteric Political History

Reagan Fires Air Traffic Controllers (1981)

This Day in Esoteric Political History

Jody Avirgan & Radiotopia

History

4.6982 Ratings

🗓️ 5 August 2021

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

It’s August 5th. This day in 1981, President Ronald Reagan fired more than 11,000 air traffic controllers, who had gone on strike over failed negotiations for a new contract. In addition to firing them, he banned the workers from ever holding federal jobs again.

Jody, Niki, and Kellie discuss how this moment reflected and shifted a moment when American unions were in decline and employers — both at the federal and private level — were being emboldened in their negotiations with workers.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to this day in esoteric political history from Radiotopia.

0:07.8

My name is Jody Abergan.

0:11.3

This day August 5, 1981 1981, President Ronald Reagan fired more than 11,000 air traffic controllers

0:18.5

who had ignored his order to return to work after going on strike or enacting a labor sit-out overstalled contract

0:26.1

negotiations. So just like that, the President fires 11,000 people and 11,000 air traffic

0:31.9

controllers did not show up for their jobs.

0:34.1

Their jobs of course are helping planes get around and so that's a big deal.

0:38.8

It certainly slowed down air travel on that day, though maybe it didn't completely cripple the system in the way

0:45.1

that the strikers had forecast and threatened.

0:48.1

But look, this is a really interesting moment that says a lot about the power or lack thereof of

0:52.4

federal workers, labor and the way it

0:55.7

changed under the Reagan Revolution so here to discuss as always are Nicole Hammer of

1:00.6

Columbia and Kelly Carter Jackson of Wesley.

1:03.2

Hello there.

1:04.2

Hi Jody.

1:05.2

Hey there.

1:06.3

So Nicki, I grew up in a pro-union household.

1:10.6

People will be shocked to hear that.

1:12.2

And I remember sort of like every once in a while,

1:14.7

you know, my parents and people in those circles just sort of saying,

1:19.1

yeah Reagan, you know, broke up the air traffic union

1:21.9

and fired workers and that was like you know a big

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