Hello, welcome to this week's episode of Inside Briefing. I'm Bronwyn Maddox, and wow, the

Chancellor has just quit Sajid Javid out, Rishi Sunak in. We're going to be talking about all that.

Promotions, demotions, new ministers,

trooping into Downing Street, those who suddenly find themselves out, going out. We finally had the reshuffle.

But we can still tell you a lot about what it all means for the way Boris Johnson wants to govern.

Even more than that, the ruins of what exactly he wants to do with his time in

Downing Street are becoming much clearer, and which ministers and departments we should now

pay attention to. We're going to talk about that. And what awaits the men and women who've

joined the government ranks? Some politicians are quite happy not to join the government

ranks as it happens. And they've said so. Sarah

Walliston rejected ministerial jobs and instead went on to chair both the health and liaison

select committees. She spoke to us about her time in Parliament. And that's coming up too.

Before then, I can't imagine better people than the ones we've got here right now to discuss all

this. Kath Haddon oversees our work on ministers, the constitution and a whole lot more, including

reshuffles.

Kath, the IFG, published a whole load of stuff this week, interviews with former ministers,

described as explosive by one paper, you reckon?

Yeah, I mean, there was some good material in there.

We had Jeremy Hunt, David Littington.

Jeremy Hunt's actually really interesting on reshuffle he talks about when he turned round to Theresa May and said that he did not want to be moved as Secretary of State for Health because the winter flu crisis was going on. So he described the moment and how difficult he found it and he thought he might be out of a job, but after some discussion outside the room, he managed to keep the job. So it's kind of a poignant

story for today's reshuffle. Poignant and completely relevant. Thank you. Joining us in the studio

for the first time is Raphael Hogarth, one of the Institute's associates, a lecture on public law, Times leader-writer, also training to be a barrister. Hi, Raphael. Hello. I'm exhausted just reading out the list of things that you do. Do you actually get to sleep at night? Every now and again, although not very much last night with everything that's been going on this week. It may not be another night's sleep then in it at the moment.

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