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All right, my cat here for mafighting.com, reacting to what we just witnessed not long ago,

the UFC 272 press conference with Colby Covington and Jorge Mazadal, and well, that was something

to put it mildly.

Is I'm being joined by a couple of my colleagues, mafighting, deputy editor, Steven Morocco, and

Jed Bishu, also from mafighting.com, the winner of between the links a little bit earlier.

But Steven, let me begin with you because you are the season veteran here.

You've been in this game for a while.

You've seen many of press conference in your day.

Where does this one rank?

Is this the all-time, cringiest press conference of all time?

And is this the first ever press conference where the most asked question was, how does a bill

become a law?

Well, I mean, it's been training this way for a while.

So in terms of the questions that get asked, I'm no longer surprised by anything.

They just continue to trend downward.

So when it comes to my expectations for the media's participation in these things, they're

getting lower by the moment.

But as far as like, you know, most cringy, we've had some cringy ones before.

I think that I think that separated this one from other ones is there was just, there

was nothing other than just bickering.

Like that's what it was.

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