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🗓️ 16 June 2025
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Today we have Brooke. She is 47 years old from Pittsburgh, PA and took her last drink on September 27th, 2024.
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[02:02] Thoughts from Paul:
When we get asked why we are not drinking, Paul shares that we should be turning the question around and asking them why they ARE drinking.
We can ask them questions like why they are spending $12 on something that can erode their insides and leave them with a hangover the next day. Or ask them why they are drinking a Class 1 carcinogen and is linked to seven different kinds of cancer?
Or another direction to go with this “why aren’t you drinking” question is that you don’t have to explain yourself or justify anything to anyone. In fact, be the catalyst. Be the one that switches the question in your community. But don’t shame people. Don’t say it with an aggressive tone but say it with presence and say it with love.
This isn’t about shaming anyone and it’s definitely not about you being right and others being wrong, but it’s about reclaiming the narrative. When you flip the question, you give others permission to question the script they’ve been handed. You become part of the change simply by standing in your truth.
[07:19] Paul introduces Brooke:
Brooke is 47 and has lived in Pittsburgh for 23 years. She has been married for 25 years, and they have two young adult children ages 22 and 20. She works in a test kitchen. For fun, she has pets, loves to garden, and has property to horseback ride on.
Brooke was the youngest of three girls. She and her family moved around a lot because of her father’s work and when she was 13, they moved to California.
When she was 14, Brooke was groomed into a relationship with her volleyball coach that lasted for two years. There was alcohol involved in a lot of their relationship, Brooke says. Brooke grew tired of the secret relationship and wanted to be a normal teenager with friends her age.
Brooke got a DUI when she was 18 which derailed some plans she had for college. She didn’t think she had a drinking problem but learned not to drink and drive. Brooke got a job working for a ceramic studio and met her husband soon after. After they married, they moved to Pennsylvania where her husband was from and began a family.
Having a newborn and not having any friends in a new place proved tough on Brooke. She and her husband were normal drinkers prior to this, but Brooke began drinking wine almost every day. There were a few occasions when she would drink too much and conversations would be had about it, but over time they would be forgotten, and it would happen again.
Tired of the cycle she was in, Brooke decided to quit and go to AA meetings. She says she didn’t go enough to become part of the community and after three years just stopped going. Brooke remained sober for another year after that. One day she randomly decided to have a drink and concluded that she could be a normal drinker. It worked for a while, but the cycle eventually returned.
After a night when Brooke had to be walked home by a neighbor, her husband confronted her. Brooke knew that words weren’t going to work and that she needed to take action to get this under control. She has learned to accept that she cannot drink and lives in that truth.
In recovery Brooke has learned that she loves yoga. She has always been a fan of recovery podcasts and still listens to them frequently. Brooke hasn’t attended AA and says that she isn’t against it, but her life is full now.
Brooke’s parting piece of guidance: if you’re here listening, just stay curious.
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0:00.0 | Recovery Elevator episode 539. |
0:03.5 | You know, it's either you're thinking about drinking, you're recovering from drinking, or you're drinking. |
0:09.4 | And that was the cycle I was in, and I was so exhausted. |
0:38.9 | Yeah. Welcome to the Recovery Elevator Podcast. My name is Paul Churchill. Thank you so much for being here with us today. |
0:45.6 | On today's episode, we have Brooke. She's 47 years old from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and she took her last drink on September 27, 2004, fantastic job, Brooke. And before we get any further, I want to mention support for today's episode comes |
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