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Recovery Elevator

RE 534: Alcohol and Sleep

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Paul

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🗓️ 12 May 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Today we have Ben. He is 45 years old from Liverpool, UK and had his last drink on September 26th, 2021.

 

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[02:01] Thoughts from Paul:

 

According to Stanford neuroscientist Andrew Huberman, all health, longevity, and your daily moods, along with your overall state of being, is tied to the quality of your sleep.

When you drink alcohol, the quality of your sleep drastically diminishes, leaving you in a state of disrepair the following day.

 

Paul shares many examples of how poor sleep affects our bodily functions and how drinking even small amounts of alcohol adds fuel to that fire.

 

When we remove alcohol and we begin entering deep sleep cycles again, all of these negative consequences of poor sleep start to disappear. It may not happen in one night but within time, trust the body and this function will return to normal.

 

[09:22] Paul introduces Ben:

 

Ben was a previous guest on Episode 364.

 

Ben started drinking when he was 14. It was tied into music and his social life. Alcohol and music helped him to escape the strife that he was having at school with bullies and being different than everyone else.

 

Drinking was a huge part of his rock and roll lifestyle. Drinking with bandmates while writing music, going out after practice and drinking after performances were all part of the landscape for Ben in his early 20s. This continued and progressed over the next decade.

 

Towards the end of his 30s, Ben says things started to get really dark for him. He found himself just wanting to drink on the tour bus and be left alone. The days of wanting to drink to socialize and be connected were gone for him.

 

When he realized his drinking was becoming an issue, Ben tried to stop for periods of time. Later on, to create accountability Ben would make pacts with his brother where if he drank on one of his 30-day breaks, his brother could sell Ben’s guitar. The idea of stopping completely was unthinkable to Ben at the time.

 

After a situation where Ben almost lost all of his musical equipment at the end of a tour, he started to look into AA. It was recommended to him by someone he knew who had gotten sober. He was a bit dubious of it because he thought AA was only for people that had a problem. When Ben first spoke at the meeting he thought he might end up making light of his story but found himself crying instead and made the statement that he was scared that if he never drank again, that there would be nothing for him to look forward to for the rest of his life.

 

Throughout 2020 and 2021, Ben would find himself having two day drinking binges nearly every week. He had just gotten an apartment without housemates or family for the first time and had no one he had to be accountable to. The fact that his job wasn’t 9-5 gave him a lot of free time. The moderation techniques began again because he wasn’t ready to believe he had to quit entirely.

 

After a few rock bottom incidents, Ben finally made the decision to stop. In the first few months he used a variety of tools including harm reduction. He allowed himself to play video games again and eat food that he had always denied himself while drinking. When he reached out to be on the podcast the first time, he utilized that as motivation to stay sober at least until the interview a few months later.

 

Year one of sobriety found Ben still having cravings and just getting used to life being sober but says years two and three found him celebrating personal and professional successes. He says life can still be complicated at times but has learned to use obstacles as opportunities. Meditation has been a powerful tool for Ben in his recovery in addition to journalling, limiting his phone usage, reading and exercise.

 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Support for this episode is brought to you by Better Help.

0:03.0

Mental health awareness is growing, but there's still progress to be made.

0:07.0

26% of Americans who participated in a recent survey

0:10.0

say they have avoided seeking mental health support due to fear of judgment.

0:15.0

When people hesitate to get help, it doesn't just affect them.

0:19.0

It impacts families, workplaces, and entire communities.

0:22.6

This Mental Health Awareness Month, let's encourage everyone to take care of their well-being and break the stigma.

0:28.6

The world is better when people are healthy and happy.

0:31.6

Now, I'm a big fan of Better Help and their mission, which is why Recovery Elevator has partnered with them for over four years.

0:38.4

Talk therapy and counseling was vital when I quit drinking, and it's still a tool that I incorporate today.

0:44.3

BetterHelp is fully online, making therapy affordable and convenient, serving over 5 million people worldwide.

0:51.3

You can easily switch therapists anytime at no extra cost. We're all

0:56.1

better with help. Visit betterhelp.com slash elevator to get 10% off your first month. That's

1:03.0

BetterHelp, h-elp.com slash elevator. Recovery elevator episode 534. And I remember thinking there was this absolute collision and a disparity between logic and the sense of this is a bad idea, but almost physiologically something else was controlling me.

1:48.5

Welcome to the Recovery Elevator podcast. My name is Paul Churchill and I'm excited to be here with you today.

1:55.3

On today's episode, we have Ben. He's 45 years old from Liverpool United Kingdom and he took his last drink on September 21st, 2021. Great job, Ben. Okay, let's get started. According to Stanford

2:05.6

neuroscientist Andrew Huberman, all health, longevity, and your daily moods, along with

2:12.0

your overall state of being, is tied to the quality of your sleep. When you drink alcohol

2:16.8

or go to bed with any amount of alcohol in your system, the quality of your sleep. When you drink alcohol or go to bed with any amount of

2:18.8

alcohol in your system, the quality of your sleep drastically diminishes, leaving you in a state

2:24.5

of disrepair the following day. With alcohol and sleep, hormonal systems no longer function

2:30.7

properly. For example, a male would have testosterone levels of someone who is 10

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