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The Politics Show

Rayner out, Labour moves right | Politics with Rachel Cunliffe

The Politics Show

The New Statesman

Society & Culture, News, Politics

4.21.5K Ratings

🗓️ 5 September 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Angela Rayner resigned from government, and stood down as deputy Labour leader, following her failure to pay enough tax on a property in Hove. With this Keir Starmer has reshuffled his top cabinet, where are they headed now?


Rachel Cunliffe is joined by Andrew Marr, Tom McTague and Megan Kenyon.

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0:00.0

The New Statesman.

0:04.0

Angela Rainer has quit over her underpaid property tax.

0:11.8

Kirstalma is reshuffling his cabinet, and this quiet Friday in the first week of the new

0:16.7

parliamentary term has become a huge day for the Labour government.

0:20.7

I'm Rachel Cunleff, and this

0:22.1

is the New Statesman podcast. Later, we'll hear from Megan Kenyon and Tom McTagg, but first, I am joined by

0:28.6

our political editor, Andrew Maher. Andrew, Rayner has resigned from all three of her positions,

0:35.6

housing secretary, deputy prime minister and deputy leader of the

0:39.3

Labour Party. When the news of the stamp duty shortfall first broke earlier this week, you made

0:45.7

quite a convincing argument that she should stay. What's changed? Well, the argument I was making,

0:51.1

and which, by the way, I'm not embarrassed about it, was a political argument.

0:55.1

In other words, I thought it would be disastrous, very, very bad, at least, for Keir Stama

0:59.0

and for the government to lose Angela Rainer for a whole series of reasons that I then explained.

1:04.2

I think it is terrible for the government that she has gone.

1:07.4

But at the same time, if you remember, I said that the whole thing hinged on whether

1:11.8

Laurie Magnus, the independent reviewer on ministerial standards, concluded that she had been given

1:19.0

bad legal advice, which was not her fault, and there was nothing she could have done about that,

1:24.9

on the one hand, in which case she would have stayed,

1:32.8

or that she had somehow failed to ask enough questions or give enough information to get the legal advice that came back, which is broadly speaking what he said. And so in a sense,

1:37.6

he has given a verdict we thought was possible. Once that verdict was given, which is that

1:42.7

she had not lived up to the higher standards

1:45.3

of ministerial responsibility, she absolutely had to go because this government has gone on

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