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Witness History

Ravi and George

Witness History

BBC

History, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.41.6K Ratings

🗓️ 28 November 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

Following the Beatles' final concert tour, George Harrison travelled to India in 1967 to learn sitar under the renowned musician Ravi Shankar. Fleeing Beatlemania he travelled in disguise to Mumbai and then to Srinagar in Kashmir. Listening to BBC archive and using excerpts from a Martin Scorsese documentary, we hear one of the world's most famous guitarists challenge himself to learn a new instrument. The moment influenced George’s spirituality and his burgeoning solo musical career, as well as the Beatles'. It also propelled Ravi Shankar further into the limelight. The musicians remained lifelong friends. Ravi says they last saw each other on 28 November 2001, the day before George died. Produced and presented by Surya Elango.

Eye-witness accounts brought to life by archive. Witness History is for those fascinated by the past. We take you to the events that have shaped our world through the eyes of the people who were there.

For nine minutes every day, we take you back in time and all over the world, to examine wars, coups, scientific discoveries, cultural moments and much more.

Recent episodes explore everything from the death of Adolf Hitler, the first spacewalk and the making of the movie Jaws, to celebrity tortoise Lonesome George, the Kobe earthquake and the invention of superglue.

We look at the lives of some of the most famous leaders, artists, scientists and personalities in history, including: Eva Peron – Argentina’s Evita; President Ronald Reagan and his famous ‘tear down this wall’ speech; Thomas Keneally on why he wrote Schindler’s List; and Jacques Derrida, France’s ‘rock star’ philosopher.

You can learn all about fascinating and surprising stories, such as the civil rights swimming protest; the disastrous D-Day rehearsal; and the death of one of the world’s oldest languages.

(Photo: George Harrison and Ravi Shankar in 1975. Credit: by Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images)

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:07.0

Hello, I'm Emma Barnett. For most of my career, I've been on live radio, and I love it.

0:13.3

But I've always wondered, what if we'd had more time? How much deeper does the story go?

0:19.2

I remember having this very sharp thought

0:21.7

that what you do right now,

0:23.6

this is it, this defines your life.

0:26.0

I'm ready to talk and ready to listen.

0:28.3

I'm insulted by how little the medical community is ever bothered with this.

0:33.9

Ready to talk with me, Emma Barnard, is my new podcast.

0:37.0

Listen on BBC Sounds.

0:42.3

Hello and welcome to witness history from the BBC World Service. I'm Suria Alango,

0:47.7

where the podcast that takes you back to a key moment in history. We bring it all to life through

0:52.2

incredible archive and the amazing memories of

0:54.8

key witnesses. Episodes are just nine minutes long and they come out every weekday. If that

1:00.5

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1:05.3

notifications on so you never miss a moment. Today, the story of when the Indian satirist Ravi Shankar taught the Beatles lead guitarist

1:13.3

George Harrison, the sitar, bringing classical Indian music to Western audiences.

1:18.7

I'm telling you their story through BBC Archive.

1:21.7

We're going to the 1960s.

1:24.6

Now, track down five.

1:27.2

This is from the award-winning filmmaker Martin Scorsese's documentary, George Harrison,

1:31.7

living in the material world for the BBC in 2011.

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