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Welcome to rationally speaking, the podcast where we explore the borderlands between reason and nonsense.

I'm your host, Julia Galef, and I'm here with today's guest, Anders Sandberg.

Anders is a researcher at Oxford at the Future of Humanity Institute. His background is originally

in computational neuroscience. That's what he did as PhD in. But his research now focuses primarily

on long-term futures. What are the plausible? What are the likely and possible trajectories for humanity in the next centuries

or millennia? And what, if anything, can we do to steer those trajectories?

Listeners may already be familiar with Anders' work in part because it came up on a recent

episode of the podcast, the episode we did with Stephen Webb

on the Fermi Paradox, the paper that we discussed at the end of that episode on dissolving

the Fermi Paradox. Anders was a co-author on that. And then also, if you follow me on Twitter,

I recently shared a paper by Anders on the critical scientific question, what would happen if

the earth was suddenly made of blueberries?

So, as you can see, his interests are wide-ranging. But today on the show, we're going to

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