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Thank you. Welcome to Rationally Speaking, the podcast where we explore the borderlands between reason and nonsense.

I'm your host, Julia Galeeth, and with me is today's

guest, Professor Timur Karan. Timura is a professor of economics, political science, and Islamic

studies at Duke University, and he's the author of several books, including Private Truths, Public

Lies, The Social Consequ the social consequences of preference falsification.

This book came out almost exactly 20 years ago now, but I picked it up recently because the

concept of preference falsification has kept popping up in articles about recent current events and trends as a particularly useful

lens through which to analyze those trends. So I really enjoyed the book and found it very

useful. And that is what we're going to talk about today. Timur, welcome to rationally speaking.

Thanks for the invitation. So first, just a basic overview,

what, how do you define preference falsification? Preference falsification is the act of misrepresenting

one's desires because of perceived social pressures. And it aims specifically at manipulating

the perceptions of others about one's motivations. So what would an example be?

So let me give you a couple of examples that will illustrate two extremes.

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