Rational Security: The “We’re Moving to Microsoft” Edition
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 3 December 2023
⏱️ 74 minutes
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Summary
This week on Rational Security, a contentedly full post-Thanksgiving Scott and Quinta sat down with two Lawfare colleagues—Senior Editor and Brookings Institution Senior Fellow Molly Reynolds and Cyber Fellow Eugenia Lostri—to talk through the week’s big national security news stories, including:
- “Showdown with an Only O.K. Rationale.” The House and Senate are preparing for a showdown over national security priorities, with assistance for Ukraine (and Israel and border security) hanging in the balance. Where does the debate seem likely to go from here—and what will the global ramifications be?
- “Bringing Down the @SamA.” OpenAI, the non-profit(?) behind ChatGPT, has had a chaotic few weeks, with its board ousting CEO Sam Altman on the apparent grounds that he was not taking AI safety concerns seriously enough, only for the vast majority of organization’s employees to threaten to resign unless he was brought back—a step the board took, just before most of its members resigned. What do these events tell us about the state of the AI industry?
- “Carpe Ceasefire.” A fragile pause in hostilities has emerged centered on the exchange of Israeli hostages held by Hamas for imprisoned Palestinians—momentum the Biden administration is reportedly hoping to build on. Yet calls for a permanent ceasefire continue amidst mounting civilian casualties and humanitarian needs, and there remains no clear plan for a post-war Gaza. How long will the pause last? What happens when hostilities resume?
For object lessons, Quinta recommended the 1990s classic “Distant Star” by Robert Bolaño. Scott gave his Thanksgiving gold star to Eric Kim’s creamy mac and cheese recipe. Molly leaned into her love for local NPR affiliates and recommended WGBH’s podcast “The Big Dig,” focusing on Boston’s legendary highway project. And secret gamer nerd Eugenia recommended a compelling video game that even parents of toddlers have time to tackle, What Remains of Edith Finch.
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| 0:50.4 | T's and C's apply. Check the Uber app. I'm Kayla Benjamin, intern at law fair with an episode of Rational Security for December 3rd, |
| 1:07.0 | 2023. |
| 1:08.0 | For today's episode, the team at Law Fair decided to cross post this week's episode of Rational Security, a podcast |
| 1:14.5 | hosted by Scott R Anderson, Quinto Jurassic, and Alan Rosenstein, in which they cover the |
| 1:18.8 | week's big national security news stories. Today's episode is entitled The We're Moving to Microsoft Edition. |
| 1:25.0 | In the episode, Anderson and Jurassic sat down with A Eugenio Lostri and Molly Reynolds to discuss the looming |
| 1:30.0 | House and Senate showdown over national security priorities, the ousting and subsequent rehiring of |
| 1:34.9 | Sam Altman as CEO of Open AI, the fragile pause and hostilities that has emerged in the |
| 1:39.8 | Israel-Hamass war, and more. This is rational security. |
| 1:44.0 | So I have a missive from our dearly departed co-host from the Great Beyond. |
| 1:53.7 | He's still alive guys. |
| 1:55.1 | He's not departed from the podcast. |
| 1:58.6 | As far as we're concerned, he might as well be for the next few months |
| 2:01.8 | until he's back. But a very important update, evidently he has |
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