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🗓️ 27 August 2025
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This week, Scott sat down with old and new Lawfare colleagues—Benjamin Wittes, Renée DiResta, and Michael Feinberg—to talk through the week’s big national security news stories, including:
In Object Lessons, Ben is letting The Algorithm light his way—literally—with solar-powered sunflower lights. Renée, not to be outdone, also bows before our algorithmic overlord and wants you to stream Red Bull’s YouTube dance battles. Scott is using his green thumb to plant the seeds of some versatile green fruit. And Michael is going less horticultural, more horrifying, by planting horror movie props around his house—because nothing says “I love you” like a severed head in the fridge.
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0:27.5 | aftermath mike and ray i'm very embarrassed that i'm coming to you from my incredibly messy |
0:35.2 | bedroom and i feel like a need because you both have very civilized |
0:38.2 | professional books behind you and you look very professional. I don't actually live my life |
0:43.1 | the way my background resembles right now or spring cleaning in the summertime. |
0:49.0 | You can't see what's over here. There's like there's kid pajamas in that corner and there's like |
0:53.5 | a camping bin |
0:55.6 | that I didn't put away on the floor. I feel bad. I just have the standard Abraham Lincoln. |
1:01.3 | Your bookshelels fill me with envy. I'm not going to lie. I have somebody who has put together |
1:05.5 | their own bookshelves occasionally. Not for my... These are built-ins. These came with the house. |
1:10.3 | Hey, there you go. That's the dream. That's the dream. I live my life exactly the way my background looks. It is true. You do appear to have a series of empty pots, which I know have the remains of dead plants in them because I've seen them from the inside. You can't tell from a camera. And then a statuary of some sort of Russian man. Is that Lenin? I can't tell from here. It looks very Lenin as. It's Hoshi Min. Oh, Ho Chi men. Well, you know, not the wrong ballpark, at least. I got it up about the same spot. |
1:43.3 | Hello, everyone, and welcome back to Rational Security. |
1:47.0 | I am your host, Scott R. Anderson. |
1:49.2 | Thrilled to be back with you for another episode of the podcast, |
1:52.3 | we invite you to join members of the Lawfare team |
1:54.7 | as we try to puzzle through the week's big national security news stories. |
1:58.2 | And I'm thrilled to have a new set of all stars, |
2:01.5 | a set of relatively newcomers to the Lawfare family, one not quite actually technically in the Lawfare family yet, |
2:06.1 | but imminently arriving to talk over the National Security News, but people who know these issues |
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