Rational Security: The “Gone ‘Til September” Edition
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 3 September 2023
⏱️ 67 minutes
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Summary
This week, Alan, Quinta, and Scott reunited to talk through the week’s big national security news, including:
- “Pack Your Knives and Go Home.” Vladimir Putin’s top chef has been eliminated. Wagner mercenary chief and Kremlin caterer Yevgeny Prighozin was killed in a plane crash this past week alongside a number of associates, in what the government has conceded might have been a deliberate act. If this was Putin’s revenge, what led him to take this step now? And what will it mean for his Wagner mercenary group—and the stability of Putin’s regime?
- “The Down Mexico Way.” At the first Republican presidential primary debate last week, there was surprising unity around one point: using the military to go after drug cartels in Mexico, whether it cooperates or not. What should we make of the villainization of America’s southern neighbor? And how realistic are these sorts of proposals?
- “(Re)Movin’ On Up.” Mark Meadows spent this past Monday trying to move his prosecution for crimes relating to 2020 election interference from Fulton County, Georgia, to federal court, so he can claim a form of immunity stemming from the Supremacy Clause. And some of his co-defendants are not far behind. What should we make of these arguments? Are they likely to succeed?
For object lessons, Alan recommended literary puzzle box and joy to read " Trust" by Hernan Diaz. Quinta shared the HBO show, "How to with John Wilson." And Scott dug into the historical archive to endorse Stanley Karnow's "Vietnam: A History."
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| 0:00.0 | The following podcast contains advertising to access an ad-free version of the LawFair |
| 0:07.2 | podcast become a material supporter of LawFair at patreon.com slash LawFair, that's patreon.com slash |
| 0:16.8 | LawFair. Also check out LawFair's other podcast offerings, rational security, chatter, LawFair |
| 0:25.6 | no bull, and the aftermath. |
| 0:37.6 | I'm Gea Kokotakis, intern at LawFair with an episode of rational security for September |
| 0:43.5 | 3rd, 2023. For today's episode, the team at LawFair decided to cross-post this week's |
| 0:50.1 | episode of rational security. A podcast hosted by Scott R. Anderson, Quintit Jurassic, and |
| 0:56.1 | Alan Rosenstein, in which they cover the week's big national security news stories. Today's |
| 1:01.4 | episode is entitled The Gone Till September Edition. This week, Anderson, Jurassic, and Rosenstein |
| 1:08.7 | sat down to discuss the death of Wagner mercenary chief and Kremlin caterer Yvgeny Pregozion, |
| 1:14.7 | the agreement of Republican presidential candidates to use the military to target drug cartels |
| 1:19.0 | in Mexico. Mark Meadows requests that his January 6 case be removed from Fulton County |
| 1:24.1 | to federal court, and more. This is rational security. |
| 1:30.9 | So Scott, I have a question for you as a fellow parent of a small child, which is, do you |
| 1:36.7 | think that, definitionally, it is possible to take a vacation with your toddler, or is |
| 1:42.4 | it at best a trip? And it can be a good trip, but it's a trip. |
| 1:47.3 | Having just done a trip with my toddler myself that I came back so much more exhausted |
| 1:51.1 | from the one I left, it is just not a vacation anymore. |
| 1:54.9 | Dear listener, you may recall that I was not on Ratsack last week. You maybe even enjoyed |
| 1:59.7 | that, and the reason was because I was taking a trip with said toddler, and it was a good |
| 2:04.0 | trip, and the toddler was great, and I will cherish those memories, and oh my god, |
| 2:08.7 | am I exhausted? |
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