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🗓️ 15 October 2025
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This week, Scott sat down with his Lawfare colleagues Benjamin Wittes, Kate Klonick, and newly-minted Senior Editor Molly Roberts to talk through the week’s big national security news stories, including:
In object lessons, Ben shares his new campaign to troll the Russian embassy—an offensive involving 100 dead sunflowers. Kate has an existential crisis over her (old? new? what is time?) college sweatshirt. Scott gets spicy with a plea to listeners about what to do with his abundance of Bhut Jolokia peppers. And Molly brings a bit of beauty to the party with a Prinsesstårta, no doubt something she’ll be asked to make for the office.
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| 0:00.0 | This is Jack Carr, former Navy SEAL, and author of the Terminalist series. |
| 0:04.3 | My latest novel is called Cry Havoc. |
| 0:06.1 | It's set in 1968 Vietnam. |
| 0:08.3 | It's an espionage thriller set in Saigon, the Mountains of Laos, Bangkok, Moscow, and Washington, D.C. |
| 0:14.7 | Shadow ops, spy ships, and a Soviet plot that could tip the balance of the Cold War. |
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| 1:03.0 | So the last time we at Kate on the podcast, |
| 1:07.0 | we admired her extraordinary background full of knick-knacks. |
| 1:11.2 | But now you have competition because we have Ben Wittes here where his office is a whirlwind of |
| 1:18.2 | knick-knacks at any given moment. |
| 1:20.7 | But I'm realizing we have like a nice parallel here because Kate over your shoulder, |
| 1:24.1 | including a shirtless Vladimir Putin wearing a bear, as Ben's just pulled out |
| 1:27.7 | for anybody watching on video. But Kate, you have, I think was, was it Audrey Hepburn, |
| 1:32.3 | his portrait that is over your picture? Grace Kelly. That's Grace Kelly over your shoulder. And Ben, |
| 1:36.2 | you have only slightly less beautiful face over your shoulder. Tell us who this is this beautiful |
| 1:40.9 | visage of vaguely ominous spookiness. |
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