Rational Security: The ”Covered in Lyes” Edition
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 29 October 2023
⏱️ 65 minutes
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Summary
This week on Rational Security, Alan, Quinta, and Scott came together in the virtual studio to talk over the week’s big national security news, including:
- “Stuck in the Middle (East) with You.” The Biden administration is finding itself increasingly pilloried from both sides for its handling of the Oct. 7 massacre perpetrated by Hamas and Israel’s ensuing military response in the Gaza Strip, as the right urges stronger support for Israel while some on the left are becoming more vocal in calling for a ceasefire. How far can the Biden administration walk this tightrope?
- “Et Tu, Jenna?” Four co-defendants of former President Trump, including Rudy Giuliani’s right hand woman Jenna Ellis, have now pled out and promised to cooperate in the Fulton County prosecution addressing alleged election interference—and media reports indicate that his former Chief of Staff Mark Meadows has accepted an immunity deal to testify before a federal grand jury. What does this all mean for Trump’s legal prospects moving forward?
- “Exit, Stage Far Right.” Former President Trump is reportedly once again planning to exit or diminish NATO if he returns to the White House—a position his contender for Republican nominee Vivek Ramaswamy has endorsed. What is the future of U.S. participation in the NATO alliance?
For object lessons, Alan recommended Tiffany Li’s brilliant contribution to McSweeney’s Internet Tendency, “Statement from the University on Current Tensions in the Place You’re Probably Thinking About When You Read This,” which satirizes…exactly what you’re thinking about. Quinta lightened the mood by talking about serial killers in recommending Robert Kolker’s new piece, “The Botched Hunt for the Gilgo Beach Killer,” in the New York Times Magazine. And Scott directed D.C. locals to his favorite amaro distillery, Don Ciccio & Figli, who is brewing up botanicals right here in the city’s own Ivy City neighborhood.
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| 0:00.0 | The following podcast contains advertising to access an ad-free version of the LawFair |
| 0:07.2 | podcast become a material supporter of LawFair at patreon.com slash LawFair, that's patreon.com slash |
| 0:16.8 | LawFair. Also check out LawFair's other podcast offerings, rational security, chatter, LawFair |
| 0:25.6 | no bull, and the aftermath. |
| 0:32.6 | I'm Caleb Benjamin, intern at LawFair with an episode of Rational Security for October 29, |
| 0:40.9 | 2023. For today's episode, the team at LawFair decided to cross-post this week's episode of |
| 0:46.9 | Rational Security. A podcast hosted by Scott R. Anderson, Quintet Jurassic, and Alan Rosenstein, |
| 0:52.5 | in which they cover the week's big national security news stories. Today's episode is |
| 0:56.7 | entitled The Covered and Lies Edition. In the episode, Anderson, Jurassic, and Rosenstein sat |
| 1:01.9 | down to discuss the increasing criticism of the Biden administration regarding its handling |
| 1:06.1 | of the Israel-Hamas war. Guilty pleas in the Fulton County election interference case, |
| 1:11.2 | the future of US participation in NATO, and more. This is Rational Security. |
| 1:19.3 | Alan, you're in a different recording environment today. It looks like you're in an isolation |
| 1:23.4 | cell somewhere in deep an abasement judging from the depths of the window well behind you. |
| 1:28.2 | But what's somebody give you a nice plant, a lone cactus to keep you company in whatever |
| 1:32.4 | sanitarium you're imprisoned in? |
| 1:34.2 | I have a cactus. I have a snake plant next to me, which I recently discovered is also |
| 1:38.6 | called mother-in-laws tongue, which is very funny. |
| 1:41.5 | Oh, what is mine? I don't know. It's long and pointy and sharp. I don't know. I didn't |
| 1:47.7 | make the rules. |
| 1:48.7 | They're these old sayings that we just need to get out of our circulation. Did you know |
| 1:52.3 | part of the country calls it when it's sunny outside, but it rains? The devil is beating |
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