Welcome back. It's the big blue banter New York Giants football podcast. We are going live as we have every time this season right after a giant football game. Only thing different this week is that no microphone for me. Sounds going to be a little off. I'll try my best to get close as I can to the computer and talk into the computer. Lighting isn't great either on my end. I'm in a hotel room down in Fort Lauderdale for the week for work. So something was wrong with this lamp. It was working yesterday, and I just spent two minutes trying to get it on now. It's not working. So I don't really know what the issue is there. But similar issues for the

Giants in this game. Some weird not working signals at the end of the first half, which we'll get

into shortly, Nick. But as we wait for people to join this live stream and I don't have the numbers

just yet, I still haven't tweeted out the link. So I'm going to turn it over to you in a second and then

find the link. And I won't talk for a little while. But I want to start with the final play of the game, Nick, the fourth and one call. So I, a few things about that call. At first, I was disappointed because I actually kind of wanted the Giants to go full house backfield and just run it. I think they would have been able to block a yard up for Berkeley.

I know they didn't get it in the first half when the time when they audibled into the play. And obviously, you know, it would have been a situation that's similar. If they didn't get it, they would have been killed for it. But I felt like a full house back because they didn't use full house backfield on that play. If they used the full house backfill, they might add a shot, maybe, or some kind of weird motion.

But the play call ended up being fine.

Like, that play. If they used the full house backfill, they might add a shot, maybe, or some kind of weird motion. But the play call ended up being fine. Like that play action got Darren Waller free release. He was held immediately, I thought, on the release. And after the game, Nick, I'll just tell you what Chris Collinsworth said, because that's what I just recently tweeted out. He, so after the game, and I hope people are here already so they can hear this, because I

thought this was really interesting from Chris Collinsworth. And it looks like only 55 people.

Sometimes we'll let him. So give me a second, actually, to tweet this out here. Let's let people

trickle in real quick, Nick. But yeah, after the game, Chris Collinsworth actually said and broke it down in a way,

so so well broken down, Nick, that Terry McCauley, who was the rule specialist, who started off

by saying, no, this is not pass interference. It shouldn't have been DPI. The ball was in flight by the time

he was interrupted. Chris Collinsworth broke it down by saying, actually, if you look at the play, he was held immediately upon his release. After he was held immediately, Darren Waller, the guy held his arm and it disallowed him from getting his second hand up to make the catch. So it should be DPI. And then Terry McCauley, the rules guy was like, you know what, actually, Chris, you're right. I actually think it should have been a foul now that you broke it down that way.

Like, I've never seen the rule specialist analyst, like go back on his decision there.

But he did.

And I get it.

Look, a referee doesn't want to call DPI two plays in a row at the end of a game.

I think that was a big factor.

Honestly, I think that's the main reason he didn't throw the flag there, Nick. But what did you think of the play call there and the no call? The no call, I wasn't going to expect the refs to throw it again. No call was actually worse than the first one that was called. Get a free play, man. There was so much to chew into there, Dan. There were so much going on to get a free play at the end of the game.

The Giants were, what, 14 and a half point underdogs going into this game? I thought they were going to get their asses kicked. The defense kept them in this football game and they have one shot and I didn't hate the play call as much. Look, they decided to run the football like dopes and we'll talk about that check that Tyrod did that could say maybe lost a Giants game, even though there's a lot more football that was going to transpire after that.

Darius Slayton motioning inward on that play, they were trying to get them to switch. And it almost happened, but Terran Johnson stayed on Darren Waller. And Darren Waller went up, could have caught the football, was tough, he was being held, it should have been defensive holding. And it wasn't called. I didn't expect it really to be called after the Giants earned the call on the previous play. But I'll say this, man, the officiating in this game was egregious throughout it. The roughing the passer on Bobby O'Caricay, that's inexcusable. The man downfield on Evan Ne neal it's like what do you why are you calling that

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