Hello, hello, and welcome back to another episode of fluently forward Hacama Haleena

edition that is if you are listening on Haleena, and if you're not, just pretend that you

are because this is a little bit of an episode that's going to be tinged with some spook and some

scare and some trick and some treats. So this week I have on cam from the what I will say podcast,

one of my favorite people to podcast with. You definitely have heard her voice on here before. She

came on and she walked us through the swift-grown episode, which is basically a theory, did Taylor Swift

and Diana Agron date. You will be convinced after you listen to it. I certainly was. And then cam

was also on when Hermi and NT did a three way collab and we talked about the Taylor Swift awards.

Now I have gotten some reviews from people. Love the five star reviews, by the way, that is my,

that's my treat. That's not the trick, but I love it. Okay, I'm going to stop with the puns.

And some people have said Shannon, you got to knock it off. You talk about Taylor Swift too much.

So good news for both camps of people. If you want to hear more Taylor Swift,

cam and I did an hour and 40 minutes over on Patreon talking about the midnight Taylor Swift

album. What we thought of the album, who we think the muses of the album are, we take it song by song,

is Taylor Swift now anti-marriage? Is she pro-marriage? What's her relationship with Joe like?

So if you want to check out that very long episode, an hour and 40 minutes patreon.com slash

fluently forward. And then for five bucks a month, you also get an extra episode every month.

And this was just a bonus one that we did. And for people who want to hear less Taylor Swift,

I also have something exciting for you, Kim Kardashian. She's doing a podcast now. I saw it on Spotify.

I haven't listened to it because I don't like her. But if you want some content that's not talking

about Taylor Swift, I can guarantee Kim Kardashian is probably never going to utter her name.

So check that out. Give it five stars. All right. And now for our episode for this week,

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