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The Good Fight

Randi Weingarten on the State of America’s Public Schools

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.6907 Ratings

🗓️ 23 September 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Yascha Mounk and Randi Weingarten also discuss whether teachers unions are to blame for prolonged school closures during the pandemic. Randi Weingarten, president of the American Federation of Teachers, has been attacked by the far right as “the most dangerous person in the world,” and is the author of Why Fascists Fear Teachers. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Randi Weingarten discuss why education is needed for a free society, the impact of social media on learning, and the school closures during covid. Email: [email protected] Podcast production by Jack Shields and Leonora Barclay. Connect with us! ⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠Google⁠⁠ X: ⁠⁠@Yascha_Mounk⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠@JoinPersuasion⁠⁠ YouTube: ⁠⁠Yascha Mounk⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Persuasion⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We have to be broader in education so that kids have engagement, have agency, can critically think, which means

0:39.5

not only do you teach the basics, there are three branches of government, but you teach the context

0:46.7

of it, you teach the struggle around it, you teach what it means.

0:51.5

And now the Good Fight with Yasha Monk.

1:00.3

What is the role of public schools of public education in a functional democracy?

1:09.0

Why are public schools under attack from parts of a political spectrum at the moment?

1:15.6

And are schools actually doing a good job of educating young Americans?

1:23.7

Are public school unions, perhaps in part to blame for why many schools in the United States

1:31.1

remained closed at the end of the COVID pandemic for far longer than schools in other countries

1:39.5

around the world.

1:42.1

Well, it would be hard to speak to somebody more interesting on these topics than Randy

1:49.0

Weingarten.

1:51.0

Randy has for 17 years been and remains the president of the American Federation of Teachers,

2:00.0

AFT, one of the biggest unions of public school teachers

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