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The Athletic FC Podcast

Rainbow Laces - A discussion about the challenges for the LGBT community in football

The Athletic FC Podcast

The Athletic

Football, Soccer,, Sports, Soccer

41.2K Ratings

🗓️ 9 December 2020

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

You’ll have noticed a lot of rainbows at football grounds in the past week or so. They are there as part of the Rainbow Laces movement, which aims to celebrate LGBT+ people working in the game, LGBT+ fans and create a discussion around what more needs to be done to make the game a more welcoming place for all. The Athletic's Adam Crafton, Alex Kay-Jelski and Nancy Frostick are all members of the LGBT+ community and in this special podcast they answer your questions on the challenges facing LGBT+ people in football and how we can make sure that the Rainbow Laces campaign makes a genuine difference. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello. Hello and welcome to a special podcast from The Athletic.

0:19.2

This podcast will centre on Football's Rainbow Laces campaign and the challenges for the LGBT community within football.

0:27.0

My name is Adam Crafton, I'm a reporter at the Athletic and joined the Zoom call earlier on, I was joined by our editor-in-chief

0:35.0

Alex K Jelski and our Shepial Wednesday correspondent Nancy Frostick.

0:40.0

Alex and I are both gay men and Nancy is a lesbian woman.

0:44.3

Before we doubt deep into this subject, you can subscribe to the athletic by going to

0:49.1

The Athletic.com, forward slash Ornstein and Chapman, where you will also find a fantastic article by Nancy

0:55.6

examining what the Rainbow Laces campaign means to her and its power in the women's game.

1:02.1

So the way we are going to discuss rainbow lasers today is based on subscriber questions.

1:08.0

And the first of these areas of discussion that was brought into us was in relation to the campaign itself and the question says

1:16.3

I appreciate that this campaign is focused on helping LGBT QIA fans feel safe and supported but does it not ring a little bit hollow if there is not

1:26.1

a single out player, out male player. Is this fair or does this fundamentally miss the point of the Rainbow Laces campaign Alex?

1:36.8

I get really, really bored of everyone focusing Rainbow Laces on the subject of where are the gay

1:45.0

footballers for so many reasons. Number one, leave them alone. If there are gay

1:50.4

players out there then when they're ready and they feel that there's enough

1:55.2

support out there then they'll come out in their own time and that's not what it

1:57.7

should be about and in the meantime this campaign is about trying to create an atmosphere I guess is the right is the

2:05.8

right word so that that kind of feels more comfortable whether it be for gay

2:10.3

players or gay staff working at football clubs or gay fans which is like my

2:17.6

sort of area that I kind of bang on about quite a lot of people.

2:20.7

I'm married I have kids I walk around London holding their hands. We go out to restaurants,

2:26.2

we go all kinds of places like normal people. I would pretty much say that football is the only place

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