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Next Up with Mark Halperin

Raids, Riots & Roadblocks: California in Turmoil, Democrats Sidetracked on 2028 Plans

Next Up with Mark Halperin

MK Media

News, Daily News, Politics

4.8 • 846 Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2025

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

Mark Halperin kicks off the show with a deep dive into the California immigration protests—what’s really driving the unrest, how the media is covering (or spinning) the story, and why it matters far beyond the West Coast. He also breaks down why some Democrats publicly blaming law enforcement could end up boosting Trump and the GOP. Then, Mark turns to the road to 2028: revisiting the GOP’s successful—and still secretive—2024 strategy that returned Trump to the White House, and examining how Democratic infighting and DNC dysfunction are keeping the party from mounting a credible counterstrategy. Later, Batya Ungar-Sargon and Dan Turrentine join the conversation to explore the Democrats’ immigration dilemma, potential new leadership within the party, and how the Left’s messaging is driving working-class voters straight into Republican arms. Can Democrats win them back—and how?

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Mark Kaepern. Welcome in. Thanks for coming back for more next up. I'm the editor-in-chief of the

0:07.8

live interactive video platform, Two-Way, and your guide through everything that is next up.

0:13.2

We're going to talk today about immigration, about Trump derangement syndrome, and what the Democratic

0:19.6

Party might have to do to win in

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28. Later, I'll be joined by my colleagues on two-way botchunger Sargon, Dan Turundine,

0:26.4

to talk a little bit of politics. And we'll tell you what's next up with the community

0:32.5

for this show. We've been asking you to send in suggestions for names of what our community

0:37.0

should be called.

0:37.8

Next uppers, nexters.

0:40.4

And many of you have sent in great ideas.

0:42.6

Some of you have sent in bad ideas, to be honest.

0:44.9

But we'll tell you at the end of the program how you can be part of that as we continue

0:49.0

to try to name this growing community.

0:51.3

And we are growing.

0:52.4

The show has done better and better every week, and we're grateful to you for being part of it,

0:55.8

for watching us on YouTube and listening,

0:58.1

wherever you get your podcast.

0:59.5

Grateful to you for being a part.

1:01.5

I want to start with something keying off

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of what's been happening in California.

1:06.5

This story is both predictable and unpredictable,

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predictable because Donald Trump said that his mandate included This story is both predictable and unpredictable, predictable,

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