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The Conversation with Dasha Burns

Rahm Emanuel Wants to Save the ‘Weak’ and ‘Woke’ Democratic Party Brand

The Conversation with Dasha Burns

POLITICO

Government, Politics, News

4.41.5K Ratings

🗓️ 8 June 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Rahm Emanuel has had just about every job in politics under the sun: congressman, White House chief of staff, U.S. ambassador, Chicago mayor, and more. “I’m pretty pragmatic about politics and almost cold to a point in my analysis,” he tells White House bureau chief Dasha Burns. Emanuel, who is widely believed to be considering a run for President in 2028, tells Burns that Democrats should “stop talking about bathrooms and locker rooms and start talking about the classroom.” As the first Jewish mayor of Chicago, he also talks about the recent anti-Semitic attacks and whether America is ready for a Jewish president. Plus, Burns is joined by Politico Magazine editor Elizabeth Ralph to talk about the magazine’s recent Q&A with Miles Taylor in the wake of Trump’s executive order targeting him, and the rise of jawline surgery among DC’s male population. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome to The Conversation. I'm Dasha Burns. Every week on this show, I invite one of the most compelling and sometimes unexpected power players in Washington and beyond in for a

0:55.8

check to find out how they're navigating and shaping this incredible era of American politics.

1:02.4

Today, I'm joined by Rahm Emanuel. He was Chicago mayor. He was White House Chief of Staff to

1:08.4

President Obama. He was U.S. ambassador to Japan. He's had just

1:12.0

about every job in politics under the sun, except one. And in recent weeks, Ram has been vocal

1:17.9

about his ideas for how the Democratic Party needs to move forward, fueling speculation that

1:24.1

he'll run for president himself. I wanted to ask Rahm about that, but also get him to

1:29.0

diagnose some of the issues he sees in the Democratic Party and where it needs to go from here.

1:34.3

Here's our interview with Rahm Emanuel. Right now, there is a battle going on within the Democratic

1:42.9

Party. It's generational. It's ideological, it's a divide over

1:46.5

tactics, and right now it's boiling over within the DNC itself. David Hogg, who may or may not

1:53.7

keep his position as vice chair, depending on what happens with this vote coming up next week,

1:58.9

he's really been stirring the pot. And I know you've said that

2:02.2

Hogg's plan to primary, older incumbent candidates in primarily blue safe seats. He decided it's a waste

2:08.6

of resources. But that doesn't really address the heart of his bigger complaint, which is that there's a

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