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Ragnarök vs The Long Night

History of Westeros (Game of Thrones)

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🗓️ 11 August 2025

⏱️ 148 minutes

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Ancient legends and stories told of the Long Night have a lot in common with the Norse conception of Ragnarok, which begins with ice and ends in fire. Modern archaeology and volcanology have in turn added a tangible element to these tales, helping us understand how they came to exist in the first place. Join us for a deep dive into prophecy and cataclysm using both science and mythology, all wrapped in an ASOIAF package.

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0:00.0

The The If conflict is a driver of stories, and it is, you know that.

0:52.3

There's little that can match an apocalypse. It

0:55.9

destroys entire civilizations. It changes everything. The very fabric of reality is

1:04.4

eviscerated and has to be rethought. Moral boundaries are obscured and recreated based on an entire set of values.

1:13.3

In fantasy, such events are influenced by or outright created by supernatural means.

1:20.2

Long before fantasy authors were a thing, however, our own world produced many such tales

1:25.3

originating from cultures in all corners of the globe.

1:28.8

It's often said that even myths have seeds of truth in them, and that's a lot of our focus

1:33.6

today.

1:34.6

One of the most popular, most recent, and most grim examples is North mythology.

1:41.0

Actually, I could use that same description of a Song of Ice and Fire. It's one of the most popular. It's recent, historically speaking, and very grim, right? And it checks out.

1:51.4

George is undoubtedly heavily influenced by Norse mythology, and this episode is also dedicated to one notable aspect of that, the wealth of parallels between Ragnarok and the Long Night.

2:03.6

Both are ends of the world, so to speak, with the world ringed in ice and fire.

2:09.3

But there's also new beginnings, a dream of spring, if you will.

2:12.1

Both involve a lasting darkness coupled with extended winder, massive final battle between great heavenly powers,

2:19.8

forces of nature, and otherly beings.

2:22.1

They're even called the others in both.

2:24.6

Yet we're not just concerned with the apocalypse itself, but what comes before, the signs

2:30.0

and portents that tell us it's coming, all that, and then the recovery of civilization itself,

2:35.1

making it all into a cycle. And this one will delve into how real-world events transform

2:41.2

into myths, and in turn how George has applied this concept to a song of ice and fire.

2:46.2

We've got ice and fire giants, flaming swords, world trees and heart trees, cirruses, serpents,

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