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Though they're losing, they're going to fight to the last.

They will not surrender.

What is to be done?

Lamei, I picture him lying in his quanson hunt, looking at the ceiling.

Do we know exactly what it was or is it him pondering Dresden and the news from Dresden?

Did that do it, James?

No, actually, Lamei, it probably begins even earlier than that because Lamei had looked

at the results of the July 1943 fire bomb at Hamburg, which was actually more

destructive than Dresden.

Everybody knows of Dresden today.

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